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« on: November 10, 2024, 02:15:45 PM »
On what basis was this bus built and by whom? When was that?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2024, 04:44:55 AM »
Does an expert know this bus?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2024, 05:17:54 AM »
Up to the Professionals.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 08:21:57 AM »
FBW?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 08:27:33 AM »
No. The front design is a little misleading  ;)
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2024, 08:42:19 AM »
Saurer?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2024, 09:11:52 AM »
Volvo by Hess ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2024, 03:52:42 PM »
Saurer? No
Volvo? Yes
Hess? Partly, but Hess was not the only coachbuilder involved in this project. Locked for pguillem for three attempts to vlear the open questions.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2024, 04:45:51 PM »
Could it be the Société Anonyme des Ateliers de Sécheron (SAAS) ?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2024, 01:27:00 PM »
Unfortunately, no.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2024, 02:21:18 PM »
Siemens ?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2024, 02:24:05 PM »
Neither.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2024, 04:50:36 PM »
Ranseier & Jenzer ?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2024, 03:40:56 AM »
No. It was a cooperation between Hess and two other coachbuilders. One more attempt for you.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2024, 01:40:04 PM »
Sécheron and Tüscher ?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2024, 04:43:13 PM »
No. Sorry, but unlocked.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2024, 06:20:21 PM »
Gangloff?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2024, 10:49:09 AM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2024, 10:50:49 AM »
Just to be sure..
Is it one of the small batch of B58-55 delivered to Luzern in 1974 (maybe fleet number
102)?
Does Hess VST Einheits fits the bill?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2024, 04:04:39 PM »
Yes, it's a Volvo B58-55, locked for you, please be patient until the weekend for the final solution. I'm travelling and forgot the shelf with the source at home.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2024, 01:49:57 PM »
Yes, the same Volvo chassis was used for the trolleybuses and the diesel buses. The puzzle bus is one of the 10 diesel buses that were purchased in 1973/74. However, two other coachbuilders were involved in its construction. Locked for three attempts to name them.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2024, 07:06:57 AM »
Spent hours on this one with no results.
Only thing I found there was collaboration with Ramseier Jenzer, Gangloff and Tuscher,
but that was already discoverd by Pguillem.
Please unlock.

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Re: si_725
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2024, 07:19:46 AM »
Ramseier Jenzer, Gangloff and Tuscher was a consortium for trolleybuses.
Unlocked, too bad.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2024, 09:11:36 AM »
Are the two other coachbuilders swiss?

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Re: si_725
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2024, 09:21:40 AM »
Partly.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke