Author Topic: Solved: PN #387 -- Joass 500, 1947 (Read 3223 times)

pnegyesi · « **on:** October 22, 2012, 08:29:21 AM »

Please identify this racer for a point

pnegyesi · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2012, 01:25:14 AM »

Experts?

richard cuyler · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2012, 11:32:08 AM »

Hooooeee! Definitely pre-Health and Safety: Look at that steering column, first at the scene of the accident, with the poor girl's chest a close second! Mind you a Fiat 600 or a VW Beetle weren't much better than this contraption. I often wonder what designers were thinking - surely they could immediately see what would happen in a frontal collision? Even in those times, it seems, how cheaply things could be made was the deciding factor.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2012, 12:19:30 AM »

Professionals?

Allan L · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2012, 07:43:10 AM »

Austin 7 based, by the look of the axle.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #5 on:** November 06, 2012, 08:24:38 AM »

I have to check my source as I don't recall an Austin 7 involvment

Craig Gillingham · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2013, 05:33:54 AM »

Is this an Australian car?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2013, 07:04:09 AM »

Sorry Allan, I misplaced the CD which contained info on this car. Here we go:
"It used a 1928 Singer 9 chassis, suitably cut, 1930 Austin 7 front axle, wheels and transverse spring, and 1924 Oakland epicyclic steering box which connected to the Austin steering by an east-west link."

And yes, this was built in Australia

Craig Gillingham · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2013, 07:29:13 AM »

Does it have a JAP engine?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2013, 07:35:02 AM »

Allan L · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:35:43 AM »

Quote from: Craig Gillingham on February 19, 2013, 07:29:13 AM

Does it have a JAP engine?

Looks like a rear-engined single of some sort, so was it built for Formula 3 with a Norton engine?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:32:44 PM »

Well, the article refers to "500 class" - so I assume Formula 3 is correct. And yes, it was powered by a Norton engine.
So you just earned yourself a 24 hour lock to find this nice Aussie special

And as this one is not on the net, let me give you a clue. This guy went on to build other racecars, which are introduced on the net

Allan L · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2013, 03:39:38 AM »

Thanks, but I have no idea and can find nothing like it in what I have, or have access to. Please open it up.
I also realised that most Norton-powered jobs have the exhaust on the right - on the 'bike it is done to keep it clear of the primary chain/clutch but as there is no obvious reason to do that on a car it should not be a significant identification feature.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2013, 03:49:24 AM »

Reluctantly I open it up again

woodinsight · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2013, 04:25:52 AM »

Could it be Austin & Ron Tauranac's Cooper ES2-powered special (the first RALT) of the late 1940s?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2013, 04:26:54 AM »

we have already agreed that it is Norton-powered. It is from the late 1940s and it has been referenced on the web a few times, but a photo has not been featured online so far

pnegyesi · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2013, 01:19:26 PM »

to the Black Hole

pnegyesi · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2014, 06:30:45 AM »

Maybe another picture will help

Allan L · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:09:33 AM »

Doesn't help me - I've written all I can on this one!

nicanary · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:52:56 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on March 16, 2014, 09:09:33 AM

Doesn't help me - I've written all I can on this one!

Join the club. That "certain site" has a number of cars for which there is no photo, but none of the specs matches the puzzle car, although there is one with a Singer-derived frame. I've always assumed that the registrars of that site had a very comprehensive overview of the category, but they seem to have missed this one.

A question amidst this negativity - is the other car in the second photo a later car built by the same person?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2014, 10:30:55 AM »

The 2nd car was built by someone else.

Let me give you a couple of clues: another car from this builder appeared on AP before.
There is a site devoted to the later brand (the brand which appeared on AP), but this car was self-named. The site does mention this car but without further details.

nicanary · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2014, 10:51:25 AM »

Is it an early car from John Wynne?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2014, 12:21:36 PM »

nicanary · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2014, 08:15:44 AM »

We've had the CMC before, and I've just found out that builder Andy Menzies also built his own special. Is this the car?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2014, 08:47:05 AM »

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Author Topic: Solved: PN #387 -- Joass 500, 1947 (Read 3223 times)