Author Topic: grob november 2012 mystery (01) (Read 1895 times)

grobmotorix · « **on:** November 10, 2012, 03:13:25 AM »

I only have rudimentary information about this car: (Bugatti 2,3 liter chassis + engine, and that it has appeared at early postwar races in Germany, e.g. at the Nürburgring)

Proove your guesses and this could be your point.

Don´t ask for help from my side, because I simply will not know anymore facts...

grobmotorix · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2012, 03:35:09 PM »

Let´s see what our experts know about this...

D-type · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2012, 07:18:41 AM »

I've see this somewhere. Is it a German-built Lancia-based car

grobmotorix · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2012, 11:49:39 AM »

The bodywork most probably is german, but the chassis and engine is not from a Lancia.

D-type · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »

If not Lancia, is it Alfa Romeo based?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2012, 12:42:27 PM »

The chassis and engine are neither italian nor german.

targhediferro · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2012, 03:14:37 PM »

Peugeot?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2012, 04:06:08 PM »

No, but the country of the chassis is right.

targhediferro · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2012, 04:17:56 PM »

Citroen?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2012, 04:20:30 PM »

No, but also very well known.

targhediferro · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2012, 04:43:09 PM »

Renault

grobmotorix · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:31:13 PM »

RayTheRat · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2012, 06:20:53 PM »

Bugatti?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2012, 12:17:45 AM »

RayTheRat · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2012, 10:56:46 PM »

At the risk of opening myself up for a sniper attack, I'll ask if it's a Type 57 with streamlined bodywork.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2012, 04:14:43 PM »

it´s got a 2.3 liter Bugatti engine, that´s all I now

grobmotorix · « **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2012, 03:03:57 PM »

I think it is time to move this up.

Wendax · « **Reply #17 on:** December 11, 2012, 05:20:22 AM »

Heinrich Herbster drove a Bugatti 35 B after the war at various races. The car's engine was later on used for the first Veritas monoposto, but soon to be replaced there. The engine was sold to Egon Brütsch.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #18 on:** December 11, 2012, 12:46:48 PM »

Maybe you have a photo?
But the story sounds good...

Wendax · « **Reply #19 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »

Not yet, but I will have a deeper look...

grobmotorix · « **Reply #20 on:** January 08, 2013, 01:51:13 PM »

To the black hole...

knewit · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2018, 07:05:27 AM »

It's a Bugatti with streamline body built for German Bugatti enthusiast Paul Bittorf. I think the picture is taken 1947 to 49

grobmotorix · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2018, 12:33:15 PM »

I would love to know if you are right.

Do you have any proof?

(no links here, please, maybe via personal message)

As I do not know myself we need to verify your guess.

knewit · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2018, 01:09:42 PM »

The pic was taken at the Nürburgring and is from the Book "german racing Cars and drivers" by Molter/Wörner published by Floyd Clymer. Caption says "A 1930 Bugatti sportscar with a new light metal body on the Nürburgring". Bittorf had entered a Bugatti for the 1949 Preis des Nürburgrings. I think the man leaning on the car is Teddy Vorster, also racing at this event. So it is a conclusion.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2018, 10:17:55 AM »

I know as the puzzle pic stems from this very book

My problem is that there is no date at the photo and there were many more Bugattis and Bugatti specials racing in the arly postwar years.

I guess we need another photo as proof.

Sorry, but this is not a point so far.

As soon as anybody can proof it was the Bittorf Bugatti, you will get the point...

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Author Topic: grob november 2012 mystery (01) (Read 1895 times)

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