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PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« on: February 13, 2013, 04:47:25 AM »
What is this?
I don't know and I can't help you.
2 point for correct id.
(I have just a year for this)
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 09:23:07 AM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 08:06:47 AM »
Perhaps a relation with Pontiac ?

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 08:10:08 AM »
According to the date I have, It can't be... ;)

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 07:21:49 AM »
Could this be a chevrolet biscayne concept?

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 11:22:56 AM »
I do not have the answer.
I can't even find back where I took this pic  :-\

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 02:46:42 PM »
I'd love to know what it is, but don't think it's a big volume V8 of any kind. The bonnet and overall shape suggests a rather small Italian or maybe French car. (~1000cc)
Hope PJ can find his source again.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 03:02:08 PM »
I wonder if its an american dream car?

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 04:01:38 PM »
I agree that it is probably not American, because it is RHD.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2013, 04:21:05 PM »
Two fuel tanks, one on each side... Maybe a re-bodied mono-posto? Could it be a central driving position?

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 02:44:03 PM »
Here you are a bigger pic.
It is just a rendering and the date I have is 1952.
Next stop: black hole!
« Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 02:47:36 PM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2013, 06:57:35 PM »
Could it be a Sixten Sason sketch for the first Saab Sonett? 6 prototypes was "produced" in 1956.



Sason's sketches was quite avant garde, here's a sketch from about 1950:


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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2013, 03:51:10 AM »
Ciao SeaLion,

always a pleasure hear back from you!
How is your project proceeding?
About the puzzle car, I really don't know, they share some lines indeed but I do not know the answer myself!

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2013, 04:17:37 AM »
I do not think this is a Sason idea. No proof, but i lacks that special Sason flair and feeling. I´m quite deep into Sasons work and I don´t recognize this, but I would love to be proven wrong.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2013, 02:52:34 PM »
I've not idea at all, but I'd like to help someone else: I think wheels (if the drawing is faithful) look like those of a light bike, or anyway of a light car. So I suppose Allemano is right when he thinks it's a 1000cc or about.
Then I remember that this kind of drawings, usually show car as they were bigger than real.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2013, 05:46:34 PM »
PJ, as you don't know much about this sketch, is there any point in asking which country it may originate from?  I ask as I know I have seen this somewhere before, but really can not recall where, but I have a feeling it may be French(?)
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2013, 06:08:54 PM »
I don't know any more than I wrote... :-\

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2013, 01:22:40 PM »
I'm staring at it day after day and some details still have my attention. The two petrol tanks (à la Lancia D50), the double-bubble-plexi-glass house and that third front light. (or is the other light hidden by the fender?).
I still go for an Italian car.

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 01:44:36 PM »
Quote
I'm staring at it day after day

Just like me... :P

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2014, 05:01:06 PM »
Shall I move it to the black hole?

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2014, 11:22:03 AM »
Give us a hint...

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2014, 02:46:28 PM »
Unfortunately all I know I alreay shared...I had a date (1952) and probably I took this pic from Geoff's site, but there was nothing more I'm afraid

Let's hope we'll find more...
« Last Edit: August 18, 2014, 05:05:32 AM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2014, 11:34:01 AM »
So, after all it could be only an artist's day dream...  :'(

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Re: PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2014, 04:31:53 AM »
Black Hole!