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grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« on: December 17, 2011, 09:22:21 AM »
I only know the donor car.

1 point for the correct chassis

1 point for the correct coachbuilder, which you would have to prove, because I donīt know...
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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 01:18:04 PM »
Chassis, BMW AM4? Mid thirties?

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 04:03:01 AM »
no, and no.

Not german, not from the 1930īs.

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 05:26:21 PM »
Italian, perhaps? The Alfa body in the background may be a clue. If it IS Italian, I'd say there's probably a Fiat Topolino underneath the coachwork. :-\

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2011, 10:32:54 AM »
It's not Italian either...

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 12:06:51 PM »
Up!

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 05:32:19 AM »
citroen?

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 06:28:44 AM »
Sure!

But which one?

LOCKED for you.

Easy point...

And another one can be obtained by identifying the correct coachbuilder.

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 08:42:27 AM »
I will give a try with 10hp

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 09:16:09 AM »
Not a 10CV...

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:20 AM »
7 HP :-)

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 11:26:53 AM »
No...

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 02:58:32 PM »
ok... after it was the "traction avant" and obviously this car is not... which leaves us with 5hp or 8. Wheel would be the one of the 5hp...

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 04:07:08 PM »
Point #1 is yours. The basis car is a Citroen 5 HP:

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 05:39:48 PM »
To be seen in the black hole...

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 03:55:18 PM »
Off it goes.

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2016, 08:13:04 AM »
Pierre Terrasson ?

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2016, 09:37:08 AM »
The problem is that I do not have the slightest idea myself - so I can only award a point when there is a proof for a guess... :-\

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2016, 10:23:08 AM »
I got it wrong, the test pilot was: Pierre Terrasson, but the TPV projet (Toute Petite Voiture) (project name for future 2CV) was started by Pierre Michelin and after his death taken over by: Pierre Jules BOULANGER.

Check link in PM
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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2016, 10:28:47 AM »
Sorry Mogul but links are not allowed within puzzle threads.
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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2016, 02:12:59 PM »
So you think it was a 2CV prototype, a kind of TPV?

Well, I wonder why they should have put it on a twenties chassis...

So I guess you really would have to prove your guess.

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2016, 02:23:46 PM »
The TPV project was launched by Mr Boulanger at his arrival at Citroen in 1935. So I have no idea as to how a TVP body ended up on such an old chassis. Taking a second look at your picture, it's not a TPV/2CV body on this chassis. I wonder if some kind of handy guy did not try to make a 2CV look a like body shape with the typical roof.
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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2016, 06:20:51 PM »
I don't know the coachbuilder, but here is some information that might be useful for other puzzlers. According to the text written on the body, this car was most certainly used as an advertisement for a second-hand car dealer located at 188 avenue d'Italie in Paris (nowadays there's a contemporary building in this location, with an Opel dealer on the ground floor). "KEL 30-30" was the phone number of that car dealer : the "KEL" prefix was used only between 1957 and 1963.

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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2016, 01:13:12 PM »
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Re: grob 2011_12_17 (01)
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2023, 04:40:49 AM »
Not the same car, but a similar survivor on a Citroen 5 HP chassis: