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Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« on: September 30, 2013, 04:17:44 PM »
I've been cleaning up my picture files and found some racecars I hardly have any information about. For a racing buff some may be easy to identify, I don't know. To obtain a point you have to prove your guesses. Good luck!
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 04:19:19 PM »
The correct identifications:
1: 1905 Mercedes 120 PS "Gordon Bennett" (Tom_I)
2: Karner Cyclecar (Allemano)
3: Chenard & Walcker Y7 "Torpille" (João)
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5: Günter Schorr's Volkswagen Eigenbau (knewit)
6: Paul Bulla's Porsche Spezial (Allemano)
7: see https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2016-45/grob-2016-12-09-(02)/msg424495/#msg424495
8: FWB Nachwuchs (knewit)
9: Adolf Reichenwallner's Fiat 1100 (Allemano)
10: Streamlined version of Helmut Polensky's Monopol F2 (knewit)
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12: Alta 52S (Allan L & grobmotorix)
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 05:05:39 PM »
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 05:18:43 PM »
#9 is A. Reichenwallner's Fiat 1100 from 1939
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 05:33:11 PM »
I'm not 100% sure about #6, but I think it could be Paul Bulla's Porsche Special:
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 06:19:02 PM »
My contribution, number #4 : It´s a 1927 Chenard & Walcker Y7 "Torpille"
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 02:10:37 AM »
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 02:34:34 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 30, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
#9 is A. Reichenwallner's Fiat 1100 from 1939
:doh: Quite recently I solved a Reichenwallner puzzle myself. Furthermore, we had this one before, too: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21571 
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 02:39:31 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 30, 2013, 05:33:11 PM
I'm not 100% sure about #6, but I think it could be Paul Bulla's Porsche Special:
It's getting worse. That was a puzzle of my own: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=18865
Here it appears with cycle wings instead of ordinary fenders, but it looks to me like the same car.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2013, 02:45:02 AM »
Quote from: João on September 30, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
My contribution, number #4 : It´s a 1927 Chenard & Walcker Y7 "Torpille"
Yes, thank you.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 06:39:44 PM »
#5 should be the Gottfried Vollmer VW race car in 1950 spec.
It ran at the Solutude and Schauinsland races.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 03:40:16 AM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on October 02, 2013, 06:39:44 PM
#5 should be the Gottfried Vollmer VW race car in 1950 spec.
It ran at the Solutude and Schauinsland races.
Funny how things go. Your answer is wrong, but led me to the solution.  :)
Vollmer's car looks quite similar, but has a more angular front. However, Vollmer and this car's driver started next to each other at the event where this picture was taken.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 11:11:29 AM »
#1 looks very much like this, identified in several sources as a 1905 Mercedes 120 PS "Gordon Bennett" racing car.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 01:34:21 PM »
#5 may be a Dübbers-VW then?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 03:45:56 PM »
Quote from: Tom_I on October 03, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
#1 looks very much like this, identified in several sources as a 1905 Mercedes 120 PS "Gordon Bennett" racing car.
That looks good. I found this picture described as a Farman, driven by René Cozic, which I thought was utterly wrong.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 03:49:23 PM »
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2013, 07:31:12 AM »
Enigma #11 added
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 05:49:29 AM »
Is #5 BMW powered?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 05:51:32 AM »
No. I forgot to mention that grobmotorix was right with the VW part, but not with the builder.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2013, 11:18:57 AM »
#5 Richard Trenkel at Solitude?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2013, 11:34:13 AM »
No to both
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2013, 12:14:58 PM »
but the year is 1950?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2013, 12:25:16 PM »
No, one year off
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2013, 12:37:12 PM »
Eugen Krings '49?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Racing edition)
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2013, 12:46:58 PM »
Photo was taken in 1949, but it is not Eugen Krings' car.
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