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Title: Solved - Djetset 778: Kergal K-210, ca 1972
Post by: Djetset on March 23, 2016, 11:04:16 AM
A nice Easter puzzle for you.  For a point, what is the full name of this vehicle please, and what year was it built?
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Post by: Djetset on April 18, 2016, 04:06:40 PM
Moving up...
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 07, 2016, 02:51:00 PM
American home built car?
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Post by: Djetset on May 07, 2016, 05:23:21 PM
American home built car?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 07, 2016, 05:38:45 PM
European one-off?
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Post by: Djetset on May 07, 2016, 07:43:34 PM
European one-off?
Yes, it's European, and I believe a one-off, although it was intended for small scale production, which never materialised!
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 07, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
was it built in Germany?
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Post by: Djetset on May 10, 2016, 10:33:06 AM
was it built in Germany?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 10, 2016, 11:49:02 AM
is there wood incorporated into the bodys, construction?
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Post by: Djetset on May 10, 2016, 11:55:50 AM
is there wood incorporated into the bodys, construction?
Yes, I believe there is some wood in there.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 10, 2016, 12:50:20 PM
is it named after it,s builder?
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Post by: Djetset on May 10, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
is it named after it,s builder?
Yes, partly.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 10, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
was it built with parts from other cars?
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Post by: Djetset on May 10, 2016, 01:33:37 PM
was it built with parts from other cars?
Built using parts from one car only.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 10, 2016, 04:48:02 PM
are the parts from a Jensen?
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Post by: Djetset on May 10, 2016, 05:31:39 PM
are the parts from a Jensen?
No, not a Jensen.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 10, 2016, 05:40:49 PM
is it british?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 05:08:45 AM
is it british?
No, not British.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 11, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
was it French?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 12:52:40 PM
was it French?
Oui!
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 11, 2016, 01:05:44 PM
was it using Peugeot parts?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
was it using Peugeot parts?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 11, 2016, 01:36:32 PM
Renault?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Renault?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 11, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
citroen?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 05:47:51 PM
citroen?
Yes, it is Citroen based!  Identifying which specific Citroen model this is based on might help answer the question of who made this, what it is called, and from what year does it originate. 
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 11, 2016, 06:26:52 PM
was it based on a citroen sm coupe 1973?
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Post by: Djetset on May 11, 2016, 11:13:50 PM
was it based on a citroen sm coupe 1973?
Not SM based and not from 1973.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 06:33:00 AM
was it the GSA model?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 06:38:19 AM
was it the GSA model?
Not GSA-based, although related.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 06:44:15 AM
would it be the BX model late 1970,s?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 06:45:52 AM
would it be the BX model late 1970,s?
The BX wasn't launched until 1982, so it's not based on that.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 07:24:32 AM
wasn,t there a model Visa,is that the one?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 07:28:50 AM
wasn,t there a model Visa,is that the one?
There was a Visa, but this one is not based on the running gear of that Citroen.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 07:42:15 AM
citroen model BN?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 11:12:14 AM
citroen model BN?
Not a BN, and I'm not aware of such a Citroen model.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
would it be the DS model?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 11:28:29 AM
would it be the DS model?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 01:29:52 PM
I,ll give Dyane model a try?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
I,ll give Dyane model a try?
No, keep on trying.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 02:14:31 PM
I overlooked the 2CV ?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 02:24:02 PM
I overlooked the 2CV ?
Getting much closer, as the chassis is basically from a 2CV, but the engine is not.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 03:11:57 PM
I hope Im getting closer with the AMI-6?
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Post by: Djetset on May 12, 2016, 04:58:03 PM
I hope Im getting closer with the AMI-6?
Yes, you are getting much closer.  It is based on an Ami, but not the Ami 6 version, so now locked to you to correctly identify which Ami it is.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 12, 2016, 05:39:52 PM
was it based on the m-35,with wankel motor?
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Post by: Djetset on May 13, 2016, 05:12:58 AM
was it based on the m-35,with wankel motor?
No, not quite that exotic.  Another lock for you.
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Post by: kwgibbs on May 13, 2016, 07:45:22 AM
your right to exotic,based  from the ami-8 series instead?
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Post by: Djetset on June 01, 2016, 06:57:38 AM
your right to exotic,based  from the ami-8 series instead?
Only one Ami version to go KWGibbs, so it's not based on the Ami 8 model...
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 01, 2016, 08:32:21 AM
is it the Ami-super?
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Post by: Djetset on June 01, 2016, 10:02:06 AM
is it the Ami-super?
Ah ha, that's the one!  I had not asked for base vehicle in my original question, but as you have persevered so much, I will award you a complimentary point.  Know that we know it is based on a Citroen Ami Super, all that I now need to know is what this car is called, and when was it built?
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 01, 2016, 10:43:24 AM
wow!this car is really hard to locate,but I,ll guess 1972 as the year it was built?
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Post by: Djetset on June 01, 2016, 11:41:47 AM
wow!this car is really hard to locate,but I,ll guess 1972 as the year it was built?
Sorry, but it's not from 1972.
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 01, 2016, 11:59:12 AM
was it built in the early 80,s?
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Post by: Djetset on June 01, 2016, 04:50:37 PM
was it built in the early 80,s?
No.
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 01, 2016, 05:26:52 PM
was named after the builder?
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Post by: Djetset on June 02, 2016, 07:49:02 AM
was named after the builder?
Yes, partially.
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 02, 2016, 08:41:33 AM
was the builder an employee at citroen ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 02, 2016, 10:16:49 AM
was the builder an employee at citroen ?
Not to my knowledge, although Citroen was very aware and supportive of this project.
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Post by: Djetset on June 08, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
After a valiant effort so far by Kwgibbs, time for the Pros to now have a go...
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Post by: oko94 on June 08, 2016, 03:20:06 PM
Was the builder an artist ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 08, 2016, 03:25:55 PM
Was the builder an artist ?
To be honest, I am not 100% sure, but I don't think he was.
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Post by: oko94 on June 08, 2016, 03:27:05 PM
Is the builder known for other cars ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on June 08, 2016, 03:42:06 PM
Robert de Clabot?
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Post by: Djetset on June 08, 2016, 03:44:13 PM
Robert de Clabot?
Not de Clabot, and I don't think the builder made any other cars after this one.
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Post by: oko94 on June 09, 2016, 01:06:14 PM
Is the builder known for another kind of activity (design, architecture, engineering...) ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 09, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
Is the builder known for another kind of activity (design, architecture, engineering...) ?
His regular everyday job was totally unconnected with cars, involving both a degree of design, architecture and engineering (and no, I am not joking!)
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Post by: oko94 on June 09, 2016, 05:52:52 PM
Was he a town planner ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 09, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
Was he a town planner ?
No, really not.
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
Was he a carpenter ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 10, 2016, 11:22:01 AM
Was he a carpenter ?
No, his profession was more obscure!
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2016, 11:38:29 AM
Was his job connected with other means of transportation than cars ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 10, 2016, 12:20:08 PM
Was his job connected with other means of transportation than cars ?
No, not a all.
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
Was he some kind of craftsman ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 10, 2016, 12:22:58 PM
Was he some kind of craftsman ?
In an indirect way, yes he was...
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Does his job involve working with raw materials ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 10, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
Does his job involve working with raw materials ?
Partly, but the creator of this car's profession is so unusual that you could ask a thousand more questions and still not find the name of the car's builder.  So, I will make life easier for you and reveal that professionally he designed, created and built swimming pools!  Good luck...
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Post by: oko94 on June 10, 2016, 04:39:07 PM
Thanks for the hint, as it was indeed really hard to guess !

Is this swimming pool creator still active ?
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Post by: SACO on June 11, 2016, 04:25:05 AM
Roland de La Poype ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 11, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
My research doesn't indicate if he is still alive or not, but I imagine he will be as he was quite young when he created this car.  It is not de la Poype though.
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Post by: oko94 on June 11, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
Was the car created between 1975 and 1980 ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 12, 2016, 11:43:13 AM
Was the car created between 1975 and 1980 ?
Yes.
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Post by: oko94 on June 21, 2016, 12:48:55 PM
Can the name of the builder be found online ?
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Post by: Djetset on June 21, 2016, 12:57:17 PM
Can the name of the builder be found online ?
No seems to be the answer as I've researched the name on line, and nothing appears connected with cars.

Very slow or no more answers from me now for a few days as I'm mega-busy preparing the finishing touches to the Goodwood Festival of Speed, so you have more time to research this one  ;)
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Post by: Djetset on October 15, 2016, 10:12:38 AM
Parking up in BH very soon...
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Post by: hermanoto on March 23, 2022, 06:06:10 AM
Kergal K-210, ca 1972, made by Michel Kergal,France. Based on a chassis from Citroën Ami Super.
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Post by: Carnut on March 23, 2022, 01:49:16 PM
Djetset has not logged on here since 03/07/2021, so don't hold your breath.
He has promised he will be back sometime!
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Post by: hermanoto on March 25, 2022, 04:54:47 AM
The Kergal in pictures:
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Post by: gte4289 on May 07, 2023, 12:45:46 PM
Probably ok to call this one solved?
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Post by: Carnut on May 08, 2023, 05:55:43 AM
Yes, you're right.
I'll award the point and move it to Solved.
Well done hermanoto.