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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Master AutoPuzzles => The Black Hole => Topic started by: del78 on June 23, 2013, 06:43:12 PM

Title: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 23, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
what is this for a point
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 09, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
experts time
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on August 04, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
so time for a pros
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2013, 02:54:29 AM
FKF?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on August 05, 2013, 06:41:12 AM
what FKF stands for?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: Carnut on October 09, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Consigning this to the Black Hole..
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on February 02, 2014, 08:38:23 AM
bump
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 01:32:42 AM
FKF was I think a German-brand. Was this made behind the Iron Curtain (one of the COMECON countries)?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 02:43:11 AM
yes it is from eastern part of iron curtain
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 02:57:51 AM
made in Poland?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 02:58:34 AM
yes it was made in Poland
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 04:13:40 AM
Zuk?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 04:22:37 AM
not Żuk
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 06:00:04 AM
was it made by a known Polish commercial vehicle producer?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 06:13:30 AM
they didn't produce commercial vehicles
and I don't know if we can call them "known"
in Poland we know that "make"
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 06:32:42 AM
was it a producer of agricultural vehicles?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 07:14:14 AM
not agricultural vehicles
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 07:42:48 AM
airplanes?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 07:44:46 AM
not that
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
did it produce any kind of vehicles, beside this one?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on June 22, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
we had to stop that now, i need more info from my another computer
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: pnegyesi on August 06, 2016, 03:03:36 AM
was this enough time to gather info :)?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: ImpishGrin on August 13, 2016, 06:27:42 AM
Was it maybe made by the Huta Stalowa Wola?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on January 07, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
I will check my sources
give me few days
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on January 08, 2017, 02:45:23 PM
Was it maybe made by the Huta Stalowa Wola?

it wasn't
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on September 18, 2018, 03:58:58 AM
a little bump
it was build in Poland in eighties
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: ImpishGrin on February 23, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
Anything to do with Bumar?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on February 26, 2019, 09:13:07 AM
Anything to do with Bumar?

to nie Bumar :)
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on February 02, 2020, 09:47:47 AM
did it produce any kind of vehicles, beside this one?
?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 09, 2023, 09:07:30 PM
It looks like del78 has been active lately, so let me first reintroduce pnegyesi's unanswered question:

did it produce any kind of vehicles, beside this one?

Additionally, I have a question about this comment:

they didn't produce commercial vehicles
and I don't know if we can call them "known"
in Poland we know that "make"

This seems to suggest that the builder is widely known in Poland, but that it is not actually a company/brand. Was it built by the Polish government/military (under martial law in the early '80s) or by another governmental entity?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 12, 2023, 04:08:46 AM
did it produce any kind of vehicles, beside this one?
?

this company was known for a specific type of vehicles
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: Wendax on July 12, 2023, 04:33:08 AM
BÓBR?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 12, 2023, 04:55:59 AM
Quote
This seems to suggest that the builder is widely known in Poland, but that it is not actually a company/brand. Was it built by the Polish government/military (under martial law in the early '80s) or by another governmental entity?

in the years when this vehicle was introduced into (small-series) production, the manufacturer merged with a much larger company from a completely different industry than construction

in the times of communism in Poland and in all countries behind the iron curtain, the situation with automotive and similar companies was a bit complicated for people from the west
There were no named brands, such as Mercedes-Benz or Audi, but there were state-owned factories usually named as FSO (Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych) or FSM (Factory of Small Cars). These factories produced cars such as Polski Fiat 125p (FSO), Polonez (FSO), Polski Fiat 126p (FSM), Syrena 105 (FSM).
The same was the case with trucks.
And there were many small companies, such as repair shops, which sometimes produced their own products.
Of course, in the 1990s, after the political changes, many of these companies disappeared from the face of the earth or turned into private companies.
The vehicle mentioned in this puzzle is a (small) product of this type of small company/factory/workshop/R&D center (delete as appropriate) connected to a larger company/factory/workshop/R&D center (delete as appropriate).
To earn points you need to find:
- the name of the manufacturer or the name of the company that developed the machine,
- purpose of the vehicle,
- proper name,
- year of production (+/- 1 year)
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 12, 2023, 05:08:41 AM
BÓBR?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 12, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
WUKO?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 13, 2023, 08:55:48 AM
WUKO?

in one of my source this facility is called WUKO and I can accept this answer buy You need to quess from which WUKO (city) it is
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 13, 2023, 10:49:10 AM
Zduńska Wola?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 13, 2023, 11:01:25 AM
nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 13, 2023, 11:39:40 AM
Wschowa?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 14, 2023, 04:09:08 AM
Wschowa?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 04:23:55 AM
Lublin?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 14, 2023, 10:25:36 AM
Lublin?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 11:51:51 AM
Wrocław?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 14, 2023, 05:53:26 PM
Wrocław?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 06:12:35 PM
Łódź?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 14, 2023, 06:14:24 PM
Łódź?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 06:17:27 PM
I thought not. How about Kalisz?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 14, 2023, 06:50:30 PM
I thought not. How about Kalisz?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 06:52:17 PM
Stąporków?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 17, 2023, 03:51:29 AM
Stąporków?

finally
locked for You, I need the name of this vehicle and proper name of this company
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 17, 2023, 04:30:07 AM
locked for You, I need the name of this vehicle and proper name of this company
Taking these one at a time...

A similar sweeper that was produced by WUKO Stąporków in the 1990s was called the "Zamiatarka Mechaniczna ZS-13." Did this one have a designation similar to ZS-13?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 17, 2023, 05:26:05 PM
locked for You, I need the name of this vehicle and proper name of this company
Taking these one at a time...

A similar sweeper that was produced by WUKO Stąporków in the 1990s was called the "Zamiatarka Mechaniczna ZS-13." Did this one have a designation similar to ZS-13?

You are very close, find another number ;)
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 17, 2023, 07:10:05 PM
It's not quite a match for this ZS-12, so ZS-11?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 18, 2023, 06:13:46 AM
nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 18, 2023, 10:43:09 AM
ZS-10?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 19, 2023, 04:02:01 AM
ZS-10?

nope
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 19, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Is it also ZS-12?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 20, 2023, 03:10:34 AM
Is it also ZS-12?

nope, puzzle vehicle is larger one ;)
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 20, 2023, 03:19:49 AM
ZS-14?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 20, 2023, 09:59:25 AM
ZS-14?

larger
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 20, 2023, 10:52:41 AM
ZS-15?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 21, 2023, 02:59:20 PM
ZS-15?

larger steps please
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: gte4289 on July 21, 2023, 03:25:12 PM
ZS-20?
Title: Re: del78 no. 195
Post by: del78 on July 21, 2023, 03:29:08 PM
ZS-20?

that's it
and there is one more thing: please try to find proper name of the company tha build this
WUKO was a parental company of this factory in Stąporków