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Solved: Wendax 1457 - Propeller car by Emil Sohn, Berlin 1920
« on: December 28, 2014, 01:57:06 AM »
It took me quite a long time to find a name for the pictured car. How about you?

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 01:30:51 PM by Wendax »
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 03:10:01 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 07:39:24 PM »
Holding Tightly Onto His Chauffeur's Cap Prevented Mr Sandler Being Sucked Into The Car's Propellor.

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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 08:38:55 PM »
Adele, it had a 4 cylinder engine with 2/6 hp. Picture was taken in Berlin in 1922
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 02:20:56 AM »
Quote from: Majeko on January 04, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
Adele, it had a 4 cylinder engine with 2/6 hp. Picture was taken in Berlin in 1922
It is not the name I have. If you can prove your guess, feel free to PM me.
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 01:52:54 AM »
1922 propeller driven limousine?
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 02:59:08 AM »
Majeko is correct in saying that the picture was taken in Berlin in 1922. The car is obviously propeller-driven. I wouldn't call it a limousine, not even in the German meaning of sedan / saloon.
What's missing is its name. I know (now) that some internet sources call it Adele, but that is a name I couldn't find any proof for. Hemmings couldn't confirm it either. I have a usually reliable source where it is identified as another documented propeller car.
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 07:02:10 AM »
Is the name you're looking for Rivo?
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2015, 07:08:27 AM »
Yes, in a German veteran car magazine this picture was captioned as a Rivo.
I wasn't able to find any other pictures of a Rivo, so I am tempted to believe it.
Whatever it is, the point is yours.  ;)
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1457 - Rivo
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2015, 12:35:59 PM »
This one is a hard nut.
I would have placed this as a puzzle if I knew the facts or if the internet would provide us with reliable facts.
Some weeks ago I did a little inquiry about this car and I don´t think it does...

The propeller-driven vehicle of Rivo GmbH - that was shown in 1921 in Berlin - was described in an essay about propeller driven cars in 1930 (see photo below).

However the description does not correspond with your puzzle car in my eyes.

And all I found about this puzzle car was also the name "Adele".

But I wouldn´t be sure if that might be correct...
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1457 - Rivo
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 12:46:19 PM »
here some technical facts, but no name...
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1457 - Rivo
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 12:54:00 PM »
You are probably right. I had a deeper look in my archive and found a drawing of the Rivo. The propeller is only slightly tilted, but the bodywork is different, without the top, but with horizontal fenders and a more ship-like front. And furthermore, the puzzle car has a Berlin registration, while the Rivo was built in Schwäbisch Gmünd. Too bad, Oldtimer Markt is usually a reliable source. I'm rather doubtful about Adele either.

Great additions, BTW. Never seen it from the back before.

What to do now? I think, Majeko can keep his point, as he found two possible names.
Could an editor please move this topic back to the professional board.
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 02:09:39 PM »
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2015, 02:35:28 AM »
Into the Black Hole
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 05:53:17 PM »
I found the same picture captioned "1920 - Emil Sohn à Berlin".
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Re: Wendax 1457
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 02:38:35 AM »
Great find! That certainly is the same car. We've had Emil Sohn before with another propeller car: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2014-43/emil-sohns-air-flivver-propellerwagen-ca-1931/

Two points for you.
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1457 - Propeller car by Emil Sohn, Berlin 1920
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 10:16:42 AM »
Thank you...I wonder how the Rivo and the Adele look like, then.
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1457 - Propeller car by Emil Sohn, Berlin 1920
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 12:15:36 PM »
Perfect - thank you!
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