Solved: Wendax 1457 - Propeller car by Emil Sohn, Berlin 1920

Wendax · December 28, 2014, 01:57:06 AM

It took me quite a long time to find a name for the pictured car. How about you?

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

Wendax · January 04, 2015, 03:10:01 AM

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richard cuyler · January 04, 2015, 07:39:24 PM

Holding Tightly Onto His Chauffeur's Cap Prevented Mr Sandler Being Sucked Into The Car's Propellor.

Majeko · January 04, 2015, 08:38:55 PM

Adele, it had a 4 cylinder engine with 2/6 hp. Picture was taken in Berlin in 1922

Wendax · January 05, 2015, 02:20:56 AM

Quote from: Majeko on January 04, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
Adele, it had a 4 cylinder engine with 2/6 hp. Picture was taken in Berlin in 1922

It is not the name I have. If you can prove your guess, feel free to PM me.

kwgibbs · January 06, 2015, 01:52:54 AM

1922 propeller driven limousine?

Wendax · January 06, 2015, 02:59:08 AM

Majeko is correct in saying that the picture was taken in Berlin in 1922. The car is obviously propeller-driven. I wouldn't call it a limousine, not even in the German meaning of sedan / saloon.
What's missing is its name. I know (now) that some internet sources call it Adele, but that is a name I couldn't find any proof for. Hemmings couldn't confirm it either. I have a usually reliable source where it is identified as another documented propeller car.

Majeko · January 06, 2015, 07:02:10 AM

Is the name you're looking for Rivo?

Wendax · January 06, 2015, 07:08:27 AM

Yes, in a German veteran car magazine this picture was captioned as a Rivo.
I wasn't able to find any other pictures of a Rivo, so I am tempted to believe it.
Whatever it is, the point is yours.

grobmotorix · January 06, 2015, 12:35:59 PM

This one is a hard nut.
I would have placed this as a puzzle if I knew the facts or if the internet would provide us with reliable facts.
Some weeks ago I did a little inquiry about this car and I don´t think it does...

The propeller-driven vehicle of Rivo GmbH - that was shown in 1921 in Berlin - was described in an essay about propeller driven cars in 1930 (see photo below).

However the description does not correspond with your puzzle car in my eyes.

And all I found about this puzzle car was also the name "Adele".

But I wouldn´t be sure if that might be correct...

grobmotorix · January 06, 2015, 12:46:19 PM

here some technical facts, but no name...

Wendax · January 06, 2015, 12:54:00 PM

You are probably right. I had a deeper look in my archive and found a drawing of the Rivo. The propeller is only slightly tilted, but the bodywork is different, without the top, but with horizontal fenders and a more ship-like front. And furthermore, the puzzle car has a Berlin registration, while the Rivo was built in Schwäbisch Gmünd. Too bad, Oldtimer Markt is usually a reliable source. I'm rather doubtful about Adele either.

Great additions, BTW. Never seen it from the back before.

What to do now? I think, Majeko can keep his point, as he found two possible names.
Could an editor please move this topic back to the professional board.

grobmotorix · January 06, 2015, 02:09:39 PM

Wendax · April 07, 2015, 02:35:28 AM

Into the Black Hole

Paul Jaray · January 23, 2017, 05:53:17 PM

I found the same picture captioned "1920 - Emil Sohn à Berlin".

Wendax · January 24, 2017, 02:38:35 AM

Great find! That certainly is the same car. We've had Emil Sohn before with another propeller car: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2014-43/emil-sohns-air-flivver-propellerwagen-ca-1931/

Two points for you.

Paul Jaray · January 24, 2017, 10:16:42 AM

Thank you...I wonder how the Rivo and the Adele look like, then.

grobmotorix · January 24, 2017, 12:15:36 PM

Perfect - thank you!

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Solved: Wendax 1457 - Propeller car by Emil Sohn, Berlin 1920