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Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward 1500 RS - 1958

Started by Carnut, February 06, 2017, 09:08:00 AM

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Carnut

February 06, 2017, 09:08:00 AM Last Edit: June 03, 2022, 06:21:57 AM by Carnut
What's this, for 1 point?:

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

Carnut

#1
February 23, 2017, 05:34:41 AM
Experts?
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el_monty

#2
February 23, 2017, 06:42:33 AM
I came across a lot of photos of this guy looking for grobmotorix's mystery Hansa. This is a 1952 Borgward Hansa 1500 RS racing car
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon

Carnut

#3
February 23, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
Quote from: el_monty on February 23, 2017, 06:42:33 AM
I came across a lot of photos of this guy looking for grobmotorix's mystery Hansa. This is a 1952 Borgward Hansa 1500 RS racing car

Yes; Typ?
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el_monty

#4
February 23, 2017, 07:09:33 AM
Typ Inka
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon

Carnut

#5
February 23, 2017, 07:22:28 AM
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Wendax

#6
February 23, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
No, this is the one and only Inka: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-wendax-133-borgward-hansa-1500-inka/

I'll PM you tonight what's the correct name of the puzzle car.

Carnut

#7
February 23, 2017, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 23, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
No, this is the one and only Inka: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-wendax-133-borgward-hansa-1500-inka/

I'll PM you tonight what's the correct name of the puzzle car.

Thanks.
Seems it's the Hansa 1500 RS, exactly as el_monty said...
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Wendax

#8
February 23, 2017, 12:21:41 PM Last Edit: May 01, 2021, 12:22:55 PM by Wendax
Borgward dropped the Hansa name for its racing cars in 1955, after the Isabella succeeded the Hansa 1500 (and was just called Isabella, after a short time when it was the Hansa 1500 Isabella). The puzzle car is a third-generation Borgward 1500 RS in its 1958 configuration with the rucksack on its back. Three cars were built in 1956 and three in 1958.

One of those cars in its initial 1956 guise can be seen here: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-neh-2915-borgward-1500-rs-1958/msg288469/#msg288469

D-type

#9
February 24, 2017, 09:46:51 AM
Ah!  A car I've actually heard of.  The first this year!
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

sichel

#10
May 10, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
To which car does this beautiful engine belong?
One point for the answer?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

Johno

#11
May 11, 2022, 01:59:05 PM
 The engine is by Borgward, the abbreviation 4 M 1.5 III( RSE refers to a racecar engine) it was first produced in 1956 designed by Karl Ludwig Brandt. The car was a Borgward two seater raced by  RS (Rennsport) these had competed in Mexico's Carrera Panamericana as well as on European tracks.

sichel

#12
May 13, 2022, 03:14:27 PM
Yes, you are right. It is a Borgward RS 1500, dohc, twin ignition and fuel injection, designed by K.-L. Brandt. But there were several versions. please define the year of construction, that should be possible with the help of the foto.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

sichel

#13
May 23, 2022, 04:27:59 PM
Up to Experts.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

BattlePorQ

#14
May 23, 2022, 05:40:42 PM
Marcus Burke?
Comin' in on a Wing and a Prayer.

sichel

#15
May 23, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
???
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

BattlePorQ

#16
May 23, 2022, 05:57:31 PM
1958/2009 Borgward 1500 Rennsport recreation by Marcus Burke?
Chassis/engine 60015/30005.
Comin' in on a Wing and a Prayer.

sichel

#17
May 24, 2022, 07:14:58 AM
It is definitely not the 1500 RS built from new old-stock parts by Marcus Burke in 2009.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

BattlePorQ

#18
May 24, 2022, 08:08:43 AM
One of original 1500 RS survivors?
Comin' in on a Wing and a Prayer.

sichel

#19
May 24, 2022, 09:10:49 AM
Yes.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

hermanoto

#20
May 25, 2022, 05:36:47 AM
Borgward 1500RS factory designation type 4M1,5 IIIRS from 1952/53

Such a car was driven by Eberhard Mahle, Avus-Rennen 1958, racing number 32. The only surviving car of this type was rebuilt/restored by Fritz Jüttner and raced by his son. The pictured car must be the Jüttner car (braided hose).

sichel

#21
May 25, 2022, 04:45:00 PM
Please be patient till Monday. I am on tour with "my" IFA H6B. No laptop on board.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

sichel

#22
May 30, 2022, 06:11:05 PM
Yes, that must be one of the two cars with a Kamm-rear deck. I took the photos in the 80s at the Nürburgring. The type designation of the engine is correct, but the year of construction is wrong. Locked for you to clear this point.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

hermanoto

#23
May 31, 2022, 02:33:44 AM
Engine development started around 1952 and continued in later Years. The tubular frame was introduced in 1957. The removable Kamm-tail / "Avus-Hump"/ "Rücksack" belongs to the 1957/58 versions. In 1958 only one car was built, the Electron. This car had a 'flipfront'. The Jüttner car has a normal hood/bonnet and therefore it is from 1957.

sichel

#24
June 02, 2022, 02:17:53 PM
Your description of the vehicle is correct. But the development of the dohc-engine began later than you stated. In 1952, the company was still working on the further development of the Isabella based ohv engine, please specify.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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