Author Topic: Solved NIC#1099 - Garford Mk 2 Formula Junior (Read 1014 times)

nicanary · « **on:** July 28, 2019, 08:39:54 AM »

What is this car?

nicanary · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2019, 06:49:01 AM »

Experts?

Willie McCrum · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2019, 11:43:28 AM »

I'm sure it isn't, but it looks portly enough to be the Hume Cooper

nicanary · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2019, 12:05:27 PM »

Quote from: Willie McCrum on August 18, 2019, 11:43:28 AM

I'm sure it isn't, but it looks portly enough to be the Hume Cooper

I can see the resemblance, but it's not that car.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #4 on:** August 18, 2019, 03:54:12 PM »

UK Hillclimb car?

nicanary · « **Reply #5 on:** August 18, 2019, 04:38:13 PM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 18, 2019, 03:54:12 PM

UK Hillclimb car?

It's from the UK, but I think the car took part in circuit races as well as hillclimbs.

Willie McCrum · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2019, 10:11:51 AM »

Fairley Climax ?

nicanary · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2019, 10:15:05 AM »

Quote from: Willie McCrum on August 19, 2019, 10:11:51 AM

Fairley Climax ?

Not that. Even more obscure.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #8 on:** August 20, 2019, 05:41:35 PM »

Does it have a Climax engine ............. or is it a Mercury V8?

nicanary · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2019, 04:20:41 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 20, 2019, 05:41:35 PM

Does it have a Climax engine ............. or is it a Mercury V8?

Neither - not even one of my beloved Mercurys.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2019, 07:00:30 PM »

under 1500cc?

nicanary · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2019, 03:58:02 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 21, 2019, 07:00:30 PM

under 1500cc?

Yes.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #12 on:** August 22, 2019, 07:59:54 AM »

MG powered?

nicanary · « **Reply #13 on:** August 22, 2019, 08:23:04 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 22, 2019, 07:59:54 AM

MG powered?

No.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #14 on:** August 22, 2019, 07:23:02 PM »

Ford engine?

nicanary · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2019, 04:06:06 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 22, 2019, 07:23:02 PM

Ford engine?

Yes.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2019, 05:30:45 AM »

1172?

nicanary · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2019, 05:31:33 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 23, 2019, 05:30:45 AM

1172?

No.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2019, 02:35:13 PM »

Aha .. a clue! The front suspension is early Fiat 500 as found on most 500cc racers, which I would have thought placed this car as early-mid 50s - well before the later 997, 1340, 1498 Ford engines. The Consul engine however was 1508cc, so is ruled out. That leaves the early 933cc Anglia engine doesn't it?

nicanary · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2019, 04:56:01 PM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on August 23, 2019, 02:35:13 PM

Aha .. a clue! The front suspension is early Fiat 500 as found on most 500cc racers, which I would have thought placed this car as early-mid 50s - well before the later 997, 1340, 1498 Ford engines. The Consul engine however was 1508cc, so is ruled out. That leaves the early 933cc Anglia engine doesn't it?

Well worked out, but the engine was fitted long after the chassis was built. I don't know the exact spec of the engine, but I think it was an MAE.

gte4289 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2019, 06:21:51 PM »

Geoff Gartside's Garford Mk2. According to the source, your photo was taken at the 1961 Castle Howard Sprint.

gte4289 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2019, 06:45:18 PM »

Quote from: gte4289 on August 23, 2019, 06:21:51 PM

Geoff Gartside's Garford Mk2. According to the source, your photo was taken at the 1961 Castle Howard Sprint.

At least one source describes Gartside's original Garford (1959) as "a Ford-powered adaptation of a 500cc Cooper." As you can see in the 1961 Autumn Sprint program below, the "Garford Junior" (which I assume was the Garford Mk2 Formula Junior) was powered by a 997cc Ford motor.

nicanary · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2019, 04:10:23 AM »

Quote from: gte4289 on August 23, 2019, 06:21:51 PM

Geoff Gartside's Garford Mk2. According to the source, your photo was taken at the 1961 Castle Howard Sprint.

Well found, and thank you for the extra information. My reference books only mention one version of this car, although the caption does indeed read Mk2. It was obviously a homebuilt attempt at a Formula Junior car - I should imagine with an excess of power over roadholding.

You beat tobytwirl to the point!

gte4289 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2019, 02:29:22 PM »

Thanks for the point!

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