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SOLVED: si_749 - Cadillac - V16 Series 452 - by Fleetwood & Co - 1930-1931
« on: December 10, 2024, 11:56:41 AM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_749
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2024, 01:06:24 PM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_749
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2024, 02:46:07 PM »
Hispano Suiza K6?
« Last Edit: December 17, 2024, 02:48:21 PM by marmer »
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Re: si_749
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2024, 04:11:50 PM »
No.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_749
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2024, 04:24:25 PM »
Hispano Suiza at all?
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Re: si_749
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2024, 02:01:23 AM »
Cadillac V-16, type 452-148"WB,  "Inside Drive Sedan" by Fleetwood, ca. 1930?
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Re: si_749
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2024, 05:28:22 AM »
Quote from: hermanoto on December 18, 2024, 02:01:23 AM
Cadillac V-16, type 452-148"WB,  "Inside Drive Sedan" by Fleetwood, ca. 1930?
That is 99% correct. I'm just missing a small addition to the model designation. Locked for hermanoto.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_749
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2024, 06:39:34 AM »
452/452A, 1930-1931
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Re: si_749
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2024, 08:46:36 AM »
452 is OK. I am missing a model designation with a two-digit number.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_749
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2024, 10:37:35 AM »
Series 4100. Style number 4130-s (with only a bench in the rear, a 5-passenger sedan), or style number 4175-s with additional folding seats in the back. As the interior is not visible I  stay with only Series 4100.
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Re: si_749
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2024, 11:44:57 AM »
I can't believe I mistook a Cadillac for a Hispano-Suiza!  Sheesh!
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Re: si_749
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2024, 12:30:21 PM »
Quote from: marmer on December 18, 2024, 11:44:57 AM
I can't believe I mistook a Cadillac for a Hispano-Suiza!  Sheesh!
Shit happens...
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Re: si_749
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2024, 12:31:58 PM »
I'm looking for a model designation.
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Re: si_749
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2024, 02:04:40 PM »
"The body designations consisted of a four-digit number, of which the first two digits were a style code and the last two the body design".

Are You looking for (only) 41??
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Re: si_749
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2024, 02:53:08 PM »
Body style 4175, Body number 70, Engine number 702746.This must be the pictured car.
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Re: si_749
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2024, 03:07:48 PM »
The two-digit number you are looking for is not a body number, but a model number.
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Re: si_749
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2024, 04:37:20 PM »
I can't find what You are looking for. The books nowhere mention extra digits. the only thing i can think of is "16".
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Re: si_749
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2024, 06:04:49 PM »
Sorry, the confusion was caused by an error in my source. Here the car is referred to as ‘Model 90’, but this designation only came about in 1935.
So it is a Cadillac V 16, Series 452, by Fleetwood & Co from 1930/31 and therefore your next point.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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