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SOLVED: si_734 - SPA (I) - 1908
« on: November 17, 2024, 04:52:31 AM »
This bus has beautiful wheels.
Who was the manufacturer? Over what period was it built?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2024, 08:45:57 AM »
Experts are required!
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2024, 01:17:39 PM »
A professional knows the solution?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2024, 06:12:14 AM »
Well, which master has a solution?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2024, 07:28:14 AM »
German?
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Re: si_734
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2024, 09:05:31 AM »
No.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2024, 09:14:36 AM »
Omnibus SPA 1908 Italy
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Re: si_734
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2024, 07:36:03 AM »
You've found the right bus!
But there seems to be a mistake in your translation. The manufacturer's name was different. Locked for you.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2024, 08:09:14 AM »
As far as I know this Omnibus SPA Number 12 won the 1908 "Concorso del Ministerio Italiano delle Poste e Telegrafi". Branded as S.P.A. (Societa Piemontese Automobili). That year SPA fusioned with FLAG (Fabbrica Ligure di Automobili Genova) and became as Societa Ligure Piemontese Automobili.
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Re: si_734
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2024, 03:07:32 PM »
If my translation programme is right, this is about an award that a transport company has received. I cannot find any references to the bus manufacturer. Can a native Italian speaker please help!
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2024, 04:33:16 PM »
It is indeed a SPA.
It came first in a contest organized by the Italian Royal Mail
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Re: si_734
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2024, 10:16:58 AM »
According to my source, the manufacturer is a different one, namely S.p.A., which is also mentioned in the article...
But we'll certainly sort that out.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_734
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2024, 11:02:19 AM »
Just for translate a bit,

The article tells how developed the race, "one FIAT, one Florentia, one Fides-Brasier and 2 SPA joined the race. The Florentia was the first out of the race, the second was the Fiat, third, one of the SPA, then the Fides-Brasier. The only one remained was the second SPA".
 Then, the article speaks about the designer, builder and founder of the SPA (Societa Piemontesa Automobili) Matteo Ceirano, and the Omnibus mecanichals.

Note: SpA means a "Società per Azioni" (a kind of company) and SPA (Società Piemontesa Automobili)
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Re: si_734
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2024, 05:58:09 AM »
Oguerrerob, thanks for the translation, that helped. According to this, SAP was the winner of the contest, my source names Fides S.p.A. as the manufacturer. There was probably a confusion between SPA and S.p.A.
So you really deserve this point.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_734 - SPA (I) - 1908
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2024, 06:02:40 AM »
Thank you!!
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