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« on: November 10, 2024, 02:15:45 PM »
On what basis was this bus built and by whom? When was that?
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2024, 04:44:55 AM »
Does an expert know this bus?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2024, 05:17:54 AM »
Up to the Professionals.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 08:21:57 AM »
FBW?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 08:27:33 AM »
No. The front design is a little misleading  ;)
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_725
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2024, 08:42:19 AM »
Saurer?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2024, 09:11:52 AM »
Volvo by Hess ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2024, 03:52:42 PM »
Saurer? No
Volvo? Yes
Hess? Partly, but Hess was not the only coachbuilder involved in this project. Locked for pguillem for three attempts to vlear the open questions.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2024, 04:45:51 PM »
Could it be the Société Anonyme des Ateliers de Sécheron (SAAS) ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2024, 01:27:00 PM »
Unfortunately, no.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2024, 02:21:18 PM »
Siemens ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2024, 02:24:05 PM »
Neither.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2024, 04:50:36 PM »
Ranseier & Jenzer ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2024, 03:40:56 AM »
No. It was a cooperation between Hess and two other coachbuilders. One more attempt for you.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2024, 01:40:04 PM »
Sécheron and Tüscher ?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2024, 04:43:13 PM »
No. Sorry, but unlocked.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2024, 06:20:21 PM »
Gangloff?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2024, 10:49:09 AM »
No.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2024, 10:50:49 AM »
Just to be sure..
Is it one of the small batch of B58-55 delivered to Luzern in 1974 (maybe fleet number
102)?
Does Hess VST Einheits fits the bill?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2024, 04:04:39 PM »
Yes, it's a Volvo B58-55, locked for you, please be patient until the weekend for the final solution. I'm travelling and forgot the shelf with the source at home.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2024, 01:49:57 PM »
Yes, the same Volvo chassis was used for the trolleybuses and the diesel buses. The puzzle bus is one of the 10 diesel buses that were purchased in 1973/74. However, two other coachbuilders were involved in its construction. Locked for three attempts to name them.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2024, 07:06:57 AM »
Spent hours on this one with no results.
Only thing I found there was collaboration with Ramseier Jenzer, Gangloff and Tuscher,
but that was already discoverd by Pguillem.
Please unlock.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2024, 07:19:46 AM »
Ramseier Jenzer, Gangloff and Tuscher was a consortium for trolleybuses.
Unlocked, too bad.
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Re: si_725
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2024, 09:11:36 AM »
Are the two other coachbuilders swiss?
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Re: si_725
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2024, 09:21:40 AM »
Partly.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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