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Well, that looks elegant. Who built it and when? What is the name of this vehicle?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2024, 12:22:39 PM »
Do experts have an idea?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2024, 05:16:24 AM »
Up to the Professionals.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2024, 09:00:00 AM »
French?

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Re: si_587
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2024, 09:07:52 AM »
Non.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2024, 11:03:30 AM »
European?

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Re: si_587
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2024, 12:35:58 PM »
Yes.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2024, 12:49:38 PM »
British?

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Re: si_587
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2024, 01:20:05 PM »
No.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2024, 03:22:36 PM »
German?

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Re: si_587
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2024, 04:33:01 PM »
Yes.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2024, 06:48:48 PM »
Did they build cars after WWI?
1904 Deutschland made by Motorenfabrik Deutschland.
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Re: si_587
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2024, 08:12:03 AM »
Yes, Motorenfabrik Deutschland was the manufacturer. But please name the client.
Locked for ropat53. By the way, according to my source, the vehicle was presented as early as 1903, but this one year is not the problem.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_587
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2024, 01:35:33 PM »
Deutschland  Steam-Tonneau „Patent Stoltz“  built by Motorfahrzeugfabrik Deutschland in January 1902, Model  1903.
Germania-Werft, Kiel-Gaarden, a subsidiary of  Krupp A.G., Essen, showed interest and acquired the patents.
The Motorfahrzeugfabrik Deutschland G.m.b.H., Berlin NW, Friedrichstraße 138, was founded as a study company by the engineer Peter Stolz and produced steam passenger and steam trucks according to the "Stoltz patent" in 1902 and 1903.

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Re: si_587
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2024, 08:40:56 AM »
Yes, this steam-powered Tonneau was manufactured in 1902/1903 by the "Motorfahrzeugfabrik Deutschland" according to patents held by Peter Stoltz from Berlin. Peter Stoltz's technologies were mainly used for commercial vehicles. https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2022-54/si_250/msg577479/#msg577479. ropat, this is your next point.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Thank you for the point.