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SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.2 - prototype from 1953
« on: September 11, 2023, 02:47:46 PM »
Needs some work.
But who? Please name manufacturer, type and year of manufacture.
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Re: si_478
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2023, 03:50:59 PM »
Up to the Experts.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_478
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2023, 06:21:02 PM »
Somua OP5/3'1955
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Re: si_478
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2023, 03:57:48 AM »
French ?
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Re: si_478
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2023, 04:43:48 AM »
Quote from: Roman1986 on September 20, 2023, 06:21:02 PM
Somua OP5/3'1955
Yes, it is a Somua, but it is somewhat older and the type designation is therefore also different. Locked for you.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_478
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2023, 04:46:12 AM »
Quote from: knewit on September 21, 2023, 03:57:48 AM
French ?
Yes, but you were a little late.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_478
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2023, 08:29:08 AM »
Somua OP5/3S2B3'1956?
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Re: si_478
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2023, 08:48:53 AM »
Sorry, but it is older!
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Re: si_478
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2023, 12:06:15 PM »
Somua OP5/2'1950?
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Re: si_478
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2023, 03:51:36 PM »
Yes, it is a OP 5.2, but the puzzle bus was built a little bit later.
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Re: si_478
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2023, 03:32:47 PM »
1951?
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Re: si_478
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2023, 05:40:06 PM »
No, a little later. We could now shimmy year by year to 1953 or consider the riddle solved right away. I like the second solution better.
It is a Somua OP 5/2 from 1953, in 2016 it was waiting for restoration in a museum in Alsace. However, I don't know what happened to it.
And that's your next point.
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Re: SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.2 - 1953
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2023, 12:50:24 PM »
Colleague Hiawartha pointed out an inconsistency to me. The bus pictured has three doors and is therefore an OP 5/3. In my source, either the year of construction or the type designation is incorrect. I am changing the title of the puzzle.
Thank you for the hint.
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an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.3 - possibly protype from 1953
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2023, 03:05:55 PM »
According to Dimitri Van Boque's book "L'Autobus Parisien 1905-1991" three OP5 (i. e. OP 5.2) buses (# 654,655,800) were equipped with the 120 hp engine of the future OP 5.3 and one of them already had the middle door. Might be that just this very bus ended up in Betschdorf.
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Re: SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.3 - possibly protype from 1953
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2023, 03:57:50 PM »
Thanks for the info. Then I'll leave it at that.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.3 - possibly protype from 1953
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2023, 09:52:00 PM »
The bus Is the Museum Is Number 800.
So It Is one  of the there prototypes.
So, OP5/2
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Re: SOLVED: si_478 - Somua - OP 5.3 - possibly protype from 1953
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2023, 07:38:02 AM »
Thank you for the tip, it is in line with the tip from wendax. I will adjust the title accordingly.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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