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Title: SOLVED: si_358 - Büssing - 650 TU - by Waggonfabrik Uerdingen - 1936
Post by: sichel on December 01, 2022, 05:55:48 PM
Now that's an extraordinaires design!
Which coachbuilder designed it? On what basis (manufacturer and type) and when?
There is a point for the correct answer and a "sichel-bee" for the place where this picture was taken.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 08, 2022, 04:49:52 PM
Up to Experts.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 08, 2022, 06:09:26 PM
Büssing?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 09, 2022, 04:26:15 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 09, 2022, 05:48:44 PM
Is this a 1935-ish Büssing-NAG Trambus designed by Paul Arendt?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 10, 2022, 03:02:22 PM
The chassis is based on developments by Paul Arendt, but I don't know of any connection to the coachbuilder I'm looking for. Besides, the year of construction was later.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 10, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Getting closer.  Büssing-NAG 650 TU 1937 from ÜSTRA Hannover.  Working on coachbuilder.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 13, 2022, 03:20:57 PM
Yes, it is a 650 TU, but the year of manufacture still needs adjustment....
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 11:54:25 AM
Are you looking for a pre-war date?  Because I found two different sources with pictures that have mid-1930s dates.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 01:14:09 PM
Yes, I am looking for a pre-war date.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
1939?  And the body by Emmelmann?
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Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 02:42:50 PM
Earlier and not from Emmelmann.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 02:52:17 PM
If it's not 1937 and it's not 1939, it must be 1938?  Kässbohrer?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 03:21:30 PM
Neither 1938 nor Kässbohrer.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 04:23:54 PM
1936?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 04:24:41 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 05:07:13 PM
Komnick, from Elbling?
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Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 07:32:58 PM
No
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 15, 2022, 02:32:43 PM
Coachbuilder from Hannover?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 15, 2022, 02:42:34 PM
No, neither Hannover nor Lower Saxony.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 15, 2022, 04:51:03 PM
Drauz?
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Post by: sichel on December 16, 2022, 07:01:03 AM
No
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 16, 2022, 09:40:50 AM
Evels, from Münster?
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Post by: sichel on December 16, 2022, 03:09:55 PM
No
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 16, 2022, 03:11:25 PM
Gaubschat?
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Post by: sichel on December 16, 2022, 03:18:36 PM
No
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Post by: marmer on December 16, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
Walter Vetter?
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Post by: sichel on December 17, 2022, 07:54:54 AM
Unfortunately also not.
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Post by: marmer on December 17, 2022, 03:45:00 PM
Ludewig?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 17, 2022, 04:12:12 PM
No. But North Rhine-Westphalia is the right region.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 17, 2022, 10:18:09 PM
Is it Bauer?
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Post by: sichel on December 17, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
No
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 18, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
Fahrzeugwerke Recklinghausen?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 19, 2022, 06:08:32 AM
No.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 19, 2022, 10:52:27 AM
Köther from Düsseldorf?
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Post by: sichel on December 19, 2022, 11:35:25 AM
No.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 19, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
Waggonfabrik Uerdingen?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 19, 2022, 01:21:09 PM
Yes, this Büssing 650 TU was built by Waggonfabrikfabrik Uerdingen in 1936. Here is your next point and a "sichel-bee" waits for the AutoPuzzler who tells us the place where the puzzle photo was taken.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 19, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
Is it Hannover or do you want more specific than that?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 19, 2022, 03:00:37 PM
Hanover, i.e. ÜSTRA, is quite clear. For a bee, it should be a bit more precise, the photo point is quite easy to locate, it looks almost the same there today, or again today.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 19, 2022, 05:59:50 PM
Is that Marktkirche?
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 20, 2022, 04:01:40 AM
There is no church in the picture but a railing...Go east from the Marktkirche.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: marmer on December 20, 2022, 09:53:18 AM
There is a railing like that where Schiffgraben goes under the railroad track.  Google also tells me that there is a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Hannover, which I find very amusing.
Title: Re: si_358
Post by: sichel on December 21, 2022, 06:09:34 PM
There is a railing like that where Schiffgraben goes under the railroad track.  Google also tells me that there is a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Hannover, which I find very amusing.
Hanover is the capital of Lower Saxony and therefore very cosmopolitan...
The picture was taken a little further north, at the southern subway next to the main station. But it's hard to recognise today, so you also get a well-deserved "sichel-bee."