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SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« on: April 16, 2023, 01:06:42 PM »
Well, how about a little excursion? Who will take us for a ride?
Manufacturer and type of bus? Who made the body? When was it? You get a whole point for the correct answer.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2023, 01:32:26 PM »
Do experts know more?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2023, 05:13:11 PM »
Setra?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2023, 07:51:46 PM »
No.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2023, 07:34:20 AM »
Up to the Professionals.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2023, 07:53:49 AM »
IFA H3, KAFA bodywork, 1970?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2023, 09:07:14 AM »
IFA H3 by Weiss ?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2023, 04:50:49 PM »
Yes it is a IFA H3 with a bodywork by KAFA. But my source gives a different year of manufacture and the type designation is not complete.
Locked for for fromwien for three attempts to clear these questions.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2023, 07:16:22 PM »
IFA H3B, KAFA-bodywork, 1971
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Re: si_348
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2023, 03:57:19 AM »
I know this picture too, the reconstruction took place earlier.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2023, 05:09:13 AM »
1969?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2023, 05:27:59 AM »
Even earlier.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2023, 08:40:38 AM »
Then 1968?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2023, 11:02:30 AM »
It's getting warmer, but it's not hot yet.
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Re: si_348
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2023, 12:25:59 PM »
Really? I am wondering, as the Wartburg 353,  from which this bus has its headlights, made its debut in June 1966. So 1966?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2023, 12:32:35 PM »
The jump was too big.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_348
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2023, 01:41:57 PM »
So it's finally 1967?
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Re: si_348
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2023, 02:22:15 PM »
Yes!
An entrepreneur in the GDR had two H3Bs in his fleet that were in urgent need of renovation. Under the old chassis number, S 4000 T low frames, IFA W 50 engines, among others, were given a new body at KAFA, Leipzig.
The first bus, our puzzle bus, was completed in 1967, the second followed in 1969.
The first received an overhaul after 1990 and is now part of the fleet of the "Verein Historische Nutzfahrzeuge Hartmannsdorf e.V.", the second is lost.
Here follows another point for you.
I attach a few photors from the history of the bus.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2023, 02:48:38 PM »
Thank you very much. Is the bus on the attached picture the sister-car?
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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2023, 02:58:25 PM »
No, according to my source, the sister bus had the registration number TU 07-47.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2023, 03:56:07 PM »
The bus on my latest sent photo has been described in my source as follows,'IFA H3 Versuchsaufbau der VEB Kafa Halle,Holzplatz' (IFA H3 experimental bodywork by VEB Kafa Halle, Holzplatz)
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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2023, 09:26:45 AM »
Thank you for this additional information. When was that, please?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2023, 09:54:46 AM »
The bus on fromwien's picture was built on a larger wheelbase. It has one more side window, just like the bus below from a Czech movie which is still another one.
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Re: SOLVED: si_348 - IFA - H3B - by KAFA - 1967
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2023, 10:49:51 AM »
Quote from: sichel on May 02, 2023, 09:26:45 AM
Thank you for this additional information. When was that, please?
They say, in the 1970s.., not mentioning a definite year
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