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SOLVED: si_137 - Pip Harris - TT-IoM - 1961
« on: November 13, 2021, 06:13:34 PM »
Another sidecar-racer? I'm putting it here because it looks so incredibly dynamic.
But for one point, I would like to know who is on the road here, where and when.
 
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_137
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 04:42:05 AM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_137
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2021, 01:41:16 PM »
Erm. " ~ who is on the road ~ ?"  Answer :  Strictly no-one as it's off the ground. (puts pedant's hat back in the box)

Is it an NSU at the Nurburgring?
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2021, 02:09:21 PM »
 :lmao: I'm not used to being taken at my word.
But sorry, neither NSU nor Nürburgring.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2021, 02:22:26 PM »
Whoops!  With that cyliner head it's got to be BMW not an NSU, and is it at the Isle of Man?
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2021, 02:29:53 PM »
Why not like this  ;) It is a BMW at the Tourist Trophy. Locked for you to clarifly who is flying here and when.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_137
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2021, 04:18:36 PM »
Could it be  Max Deubel & Emil Hoerner in 1964?

Plese unlock this as I am guessing at random and this was the first BMW that Google found.
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Re: si_137
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2021, 04:27:52 PM »
No, it's not Deubel/Hörner again. Btw. never saw them with a left mounted sidecar...
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Re: si_137
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2021, 01:28:59 PM »
Is it Colin Seeley?

I'm surprised at Deubel/Hörner preferring a right-mounted sidecar. Most circuits are clockwise so have more right hand bends and a left-mounted sidecar is faster on right handers - or so a sidecar racer told me.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2021, 01:57:30 PM »
It is not Colin Seeley, but the track is much hotter than the other one.

Most german sidecar-racer in the 50's and 60's used right mounted sidecars. When they started driving in public road traffic in the case of right-hand traffic, right mounted sidecars where usual. And so the appropriate reactions have become second nature.
When accelerating, the motorbike-combination pulls to the right, when braking to the left. I don't have to stand this reactions on their heads when racing either.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_137
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2021, 08:03:08 PM »
Fritz Scheidegger and John Robinson in the 1961 Sidecar TT?
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Re: si_137
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2021, 08:12:22 PM »
No, not this excellent team
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Re: si_137
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2021, 05:49:13 AM »
It must be Pip Harris and Ray Campbell, who came in third in the 1961 TT.
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Re: si_137
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2021, 08:26:36 AM »
Yes, you are right. Details at sunday.
This is your next point.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_137 - Pip Harris - TT-IoM - 1961
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 12:13:33 PM »
This picture shows Scheidegger, Deubel and Pip Harris at the start of the TT 1961
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Re: SOLVED: si_137 - Pip Harris - TT-IoM - 1961
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 12:41:59 PM »
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: , thank you!
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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