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Title: Solved: PN #1796 -- Rotaver Swissmobil, 1988
Post by: pnegyesi on October 30, 2023, 07:50:45 AM
Please identify this car for a point.
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 08, 2023, 08:34:16 AM
Experts?
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Post by: BERTRAND on November 08, 2023, 08:41:16 AM
french?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 08, 2023, 08:51:53 AM
no
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Post by: BERTRAND on November 08, 2023, 10:02:07 AM
european?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 08, 2023, 10:24:50 AM
yes
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Post by: BERTRAND on November 09, 2023, 04:00:55 AM
italian
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 09, 2023, 07:16:28 AM
no
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Post by: thorax on November 15, 2023, 12:35:24 PM
Polish?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2023, 01:25:11 PM
no
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Post by: Shamrock 2 on November 16, 2023, 03:11:36 PM
Yugo prototype
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 16, 2023, 04:22:38 PM
not from the territory of the former Yugoslavia.
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 05:47:46 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 08:12:25 AM
Hungarian?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 09:08:48 AM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 10:05:01 AM
Netherlands?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 10:40:09 AM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 12:45:58 PM
Western Europe?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 01:02:54 PM
Is it from Belgium?
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 01:11:35 PM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 02:53:29 PM
Germany?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 04:28:45 PM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 20, 2023, 10:12:20 PM
Is it british?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2023, 11:56:20 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: kwgibbs on November 21, 2023, 07:09:33 AM
Spanish?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 21, 2023, 09:13:18 AM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 21, 2023, 12:53:37 PM
Switzerland?
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 21, 2023, 01:01:37 PM
and you have arrived. Locked for you for three attempts
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: kwgibbs on November 21, 2023, 11:01:27 PM
Is it the willy spid microcar?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 22, 2023, 12:39:56 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: kwgibbs on November 22, 2023, 08:14:43 AM
Larel?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 22, 2023, 10:25:11 AM
no
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 22, 2023, 10:30:43 AM
Is it electric?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on November 22, 2023, 12:52:26 PM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2023, 01:34:42 AM
Masters?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Oguerrerob on December 20, 2023, 01:57:58 AM
Onyx, Scholl Sun Power?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2023, 02:24:39 AM
Scholl Sun Power would have been my guess, too. The base car is a Ligier Série 7.
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2023, 02:34:30 AM
Locked for Ougerrerob. As it is from Switzerland. But not from Scholl Sun Power
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2023, 03:06:34 AM
We already established that it is Swiss a month ago.  ;)
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2023, 04:24:15 AM
Then unlocked. Thanks for reminding me
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2023, 08:46:34 AM
There were two electrified Ligier Série 7 at the 1990 Tour de Sol, a blue one and a white one. There was a large lettering "AEBI Burgdorf" on the white one. AEBI being a well-known machinery company, it might be just sponsoring. Or is there a connection?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2023, 10:43:40 AM
The car is older than 1990. No connection to AEBI as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2023, 01:39:22 PM
The Ligier Série 7 aka JS 12 appeared late in 1986, its successor JS 14 Optima in 1989. So I guess our electric puzzle car might be from 1987/88. Is the company known for other electric conversions?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Oguerrerob on December 20, 2023, 02:19:14 PM
Larel?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2023, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 20, 2023, 01:39:22 PM
The Ligier Série 7 aka JS 12 appeared late in 1986, its successor JS 14 Optima in 1989. So I guess our electric puzzle car might be from 1987/88. Is the company known for other electric conversions?

This was touted as a Swiss-made car, not an electric conversion. The car is from 1988
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Wendax on December 21, 2023, 02:43:27 AM
Well, is the company known for other electric "Swiss-made cars" that incidentally look like petrol-driven cars from other countries?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Oguerrerob on December 21, 2023, 03:28:10 AM
Steyr-Diamant?
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 21, 2023, 07:56:35 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 21, 2023, 02:43:27 AM
Well, is the company known for other electric "Swiss-made cars" that incidentally look like petrol-driven cars from other countries?

No

Not a Steyr-Diamant either
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: Oguerrerob on December 21, 2023, 10:20:56 AM
Rotaver
Title: Re: PN #1796
Post by: pnegyesi on December 21, 2023, 10:27:43 AM
and we have a winner!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1796 -- Rotaver Swissmobil, 1988
Post by: Oguerrerob on December 21, 2023, 11:02:06 AM
Thank you!!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1796 -- Rotaver Swissmobil, 1988
Post by: Wendax on December 21, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
You can see below what the Rotaver Swissmobil should have looked like when the project started in 1987, which really would have been a completely Swiss-built car. But a year later an article about the Tour de Sol just says "Rotaver aus Lützelflüh baut an einem
französischen Kleinwagen" (Rotaver of Lützelflüh is working on a French microcar) which obviously is the puzzle car based on a Ligier Série 7 JS 12.