Author Topic: SOLVED: si_238 - Neoplan - N412F - Prototype for Kirloskar, India - 1981  (Read 4945 times)

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Re: si_238
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2022, 12:51:04 PM »
Neoplan?
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Re: si_238
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2022, 12:52:25 PM »
Yes.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2022, 01:10:26 PM »
1981?
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Re: si_238
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2022, 01:18:09 PM »
Yes...
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2022, 01:32:31 PM »
Skyliner?
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« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2022, 02:23:56 PM »
I remember the Skyliner being a bit bigger...  :scratch:
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2022, 04:09:38 PM »
I do not know Neoplan that well. SL II?
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Re: si_238
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2022, 05:27:35 PM »
No, it did not belongend to the standardised series of buses.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2022, 01:05:32 AM »
okay, please unlock then
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Re: si_238
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2022, 01:09:55 AM »
OK, it is Unlocked
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2022, 02:43:48 PM »
Soon we will reach the junction to the black hole.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2022, 05:01:13 AM »
Will be sunk in the black hole.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2022, 07:28:53 AM »
Is Neoplan Kirloskar enough, or do you search for a designation, like N311,..etc?
The bus of the attached picture may show the sister prototype?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2022, 07:39:37 AM by fromwien »

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Re: si_238
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2022, 08:51:50 AM »
Kirloskar is the right connection. But I am still missing the country of manufacture of the puzzle bus, the year of manufacture and the Neoplan type on which the vehicle is based. Locked for you.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2022, 09:37:05 AM »
The article I 've found says, that the two prototypes were built in Stuttgart, Germany.
'pnegyesi' asked July 10 2022 for the year of manufacture '1981?'. You've answered with 'Yes'. So, I think the year of manufacture will be 1981.
For the Neoplan type, I know nothing, but guess 'N 412 P'?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2022, 09:53:12 AM by fromwien »

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Re: si_238
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2022, 02:57:47 PM »
I no longer thought of pnegyesi's answer. The type designation is close to the truth.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2022, 04:21:55 PM »
The shorter one: N 312?

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Re: si_238
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2022, 05:05:49 PM »
First attempt had a wrong letter.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_238
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2022, 06:00:26 PM »
N 412 F?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2022, 06:27:05 PM by fromwien »

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Re: si_238
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2022, 12:28:21 PM »
You have got it. It is a Neoplan N 412 F, two prototypes built for Kirloskar, India, in 1980/81. Kirloskar was interested in building it under licence, but I have no detailed information about what actually happened to this project. There is information on the internet about an N 412 H that was used in India in the early 1990s on the Mumbai-Goa line. This is probably a further development of this project.
Here are two points for rescuing this bus from the "black hole".
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_238 - Neoplan - N412F - Prototype for Kirloskar, India - 1981
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2022, 06:56:46 AM »
well done
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Re: SOLVED: si_238 - Neoplan - N412F - Prototype for Kirloskar, India - 1981
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2022, 03:07:57 PM »
Thank you very much

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Re: SOLVED: si_238 - Neoplan - N412F - Prototype for Kirloskar, India - 1981
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2022, 03:35:27 PM »
With pleasure!
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke