Author Topic: Solved NIC#983 - Howorth Special ( Lagonda M45 base) (Read 901 times)

nicanary · « **on:** October 03, 2018, 06:33:27 AM »

What was this car called, and on what was it based?

nicanary · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2018, 05:09:25 AM »

Experts?

tobytwirl · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2018, 08:19:56 AM »

Any Simca there?

nicanary · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2018, 08:31:53 AM »

Quote from: tobytwirl on October 22, 2018, 08:19:56 AM

Any Simca there?

No.

Mogul · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2018, 09:14:45 AM »

French

tobytwirl · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2018, 09:23:01 AM »

nicanary · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2018, 11:01:13 AM »

Not French, and not an HRG.

D-type · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2018, 01:39:14 PM »

Is there some Bugatti in there?

tobytwirl · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2018, 02:17:56 PM »

Is it a pre-war car underneath?

nicanary · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2018, 03:15:44 PM »

No Bugatti bits, but it is pre-war.

tobytwirl · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2018, 06:04:14 PM »

Riley?

Allan L · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2018, 02:55:11 AM »

Could be Frazer Nash based, but probably not.

smodmog · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2018, 03:21:52 AM »

Lagonda ?

D-type · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:07:27 AM »

An obvious question: it is British isn't it?

nicanary · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:09:35 AM »

Quote from: smodmog on October 23, 2018, 03:21:52 AM

Lagonda ?

Questions, questions! After all that, yes it was based on a Lagonda.

smodmog · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:45:14 AM »

Lagonda Rapier based race car ?

smodmog · « **Reply #16 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:49:43 AM »

1934 Lagonda M45 Howorth Special

nicanary · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2018, 06:34:07 AM »

Quote from: smodmog on October 23, 2018, 04:49:43 AM

1934 Lagonda M45 Howorth Special

That's the answer. Built in 1944 by Hugh Howorth based on a Lagonds M45 from about 1934.

Allan L · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2018, 12:33:27 PM »

As is my custom, I can find something to quibble about!
The front of this car shows no sign of the dumbirons that a M45 has and my Frazer Nash guess (above) was based on that lack of dumbirons/semi-elliptic front springs. The later Lagonda V12 had independent front suspension as did the LG6 six-cylinder car and I'd say the front end points to it being i.f.s. - but by then Lagonda had hydraulic brakes which this special has not.

nicanary · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2018, 01:55:10 PM »

Pedants and those of an enquiring mind are the backbone of Autopuzzles!

The remains of the car were in an H & H auction and the auction house blurb is fairly lengthy. The original M45 was a pillarless saloon AYW11 and Howorth rebuilt it as an open sports registered FTJ588. It was badly damaged in a sprint and he rebuilt it again with a shortened chassis with drilled everything and a homebuilt ifs supposedly from a Humber staff car (??). It had a wide front track and thus a crablike stance.

It was re-registered again CWH222 and later on had a new Meadows engine with ENV preselector box.

So your observation was spot-on. Not M45 front suspension but indeed an ifs setup.

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Author Topic: Solved NIC#983 - Howorth Special ( Lagonda M45 base) (Read 901 times)