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Title: Solved NIC#914 - Ford V8 Special (Ardun head) of Count of Monte Real
Post by: nicanary on December 02, 2017, 06:27:43 AM
Who is this driver/builder, and what powers the car?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 11, 2018, 01:35:00 AM
Certain features suggest a Ford V8 based special.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 11, 2018, 04:09:31 AM
Certain features suggest a Ford V8 based special.

Yes it is. It's not a well-known car, so no lock yet.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 11, 2018, 06:10:45 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Allan L on January 12, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
That photo has an Australian look, so is that where it's from?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 06:50:30 AM
That photo has an Australian look, so is that where it's from?

Sorry, I'm afraid it's not.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 12, 2018, 09:30:13 AM
Could the photograph have been taken in Singapore or Malaysia.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 12:35:25 PM
Could the photograph have been taken in Singapore or Malaysia.

Not either of those.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 12, 2018, 12:47:46 PM
Can we start with 'what powers the car' and I say a FORD V8.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 01:10:11 PM
Can we start with 'what powers the car' and I say a FORD V8.

That's already been ascertained - see Reply #1. If you can find the country, you can find the builder.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 12, 2018, 01:34:26 PM
The van at the rear could suggest a colonial country and the period circa 1950's however the car itself could well have been built in the 1930's.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
The van at the rear could suggest a colonial country and the period circa 1950's however the car itself could well have been built in the 1930's.

I don't know the exact build date, but you are correct - the photo was taken in the 1950s.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: D-type on January 12, 2018, 02:38:52 PM
If not Singapore or Malaysia, is it somewhere in the Far East?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 12, 2018, 02:51:07 PM
Or maybe India or Ceylon.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 03:58:01 PM
Or maybe India or Ceylon.

Not the far East or indeed Asia at all.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 12, 2018, 04:35:48 PM
Could it be Jamaica.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 12, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
Could it be Jamaica.

No.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Carnut on January 12, 2018, 06:06:30 PM
Somewhere in Africa..  South Africa?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 04:05:10 AM
Somewhere in Africa..  South Africa?

Not on that continent.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 13, 2018, 04:11:41 AM
How about the West Indies.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 04:18:12 AM
How about the West Indies.

None of those countries.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 13, 2018, 04:36:06 AM
Somewhere in South America.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Carnut on January 13, 2018, 04:36:55 AM
Cuba?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Allan L on January 13, 2018, 05:06:51 AM
What we've not asked is if its origin is actually no more obscure than the UK. Consider that asked!
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 05:19:47 AM
What we've not asked is if its origin is actually no more obscure than the UK. Consider that asked!

 ;D. Not South America, Cuba or indeed the UK. I think we've covered half the world now - still plenty of countries left...........
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Carnut on January 13, 2018, 07:31:11 AM
USA then?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 08:46:45 AM
USA then?

No.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Carnut on January 13, 2018, 10:06:29 AM
OK, so it's not North or South America, Asia, Africa or Australia, so that rules out all the continents except Europe.
It doesn't look like a European scene so it must be an island; in the Caribbean?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
OK, so it's not North or South America, Asia, Africa or Australia, so that rules out all the continents except Europe.
It doesn't look like a European scene so it must be an island; in the Caribbean?

No. According to my notes it's on the mainland.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Carnut on January 13, 2018, 12:05:35 PM
Mainland Europe you mean?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Allan L on January 13, 2018, 12:08:06 PM
I don't think we've ruled out non-USofA North America, have we?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
Mainland Europe you mean?

Not North America. I was a bit too loose with my hints - mainland Europe it is.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: D-type on January 13, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
Portugal?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 13, 2018, 04:36:29 PM
Portugal?

Yes it is! Who is the driver? LOCKED for you.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: D-type on January 13, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
I haven't a clue.  De Souza?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 14, 2018, 01:10:43 AM
In 1936-1937 three racing cars were built by Eduardo Ferreirinha and were known as 'Ford Especial V8's '. Later a road version was built known as the 'EDFOR' There were another four of these. All cars were built in Porto. The first car to race after WW2 was in 1947 so I am assuming that the driver of the car in the picture is Augusto Madureira.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 14, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
In 1936-1937 three racing cars were built by Eduardo Ferreirinha and were known as 'Ford Especial V8's '. Later a road version was built known as the 'EDFOR' There were another four of these. All cars were built in Porto. The first car to race after WW2 was in 1947 so I am assuming that the driver of the car in the picture is Augusto Madureira.

This puzzle is presently locked for D-type. I'm afraid anything you post on here can only assist him in his endeavours.

Sadly for both of you, this is nothing to do with those cars. Nor is the builder De Souza.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: William Hearne. on January 14, 2018, 08:36:21 AM
I am not bothered. It is not a worry !
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: D-type on January 14, 2018, 08:46:30 AM
Sorry!   When I said "I haven't a clue",  I meant to add  "Please unlock".
So them as might know could have a try, please unlock.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on January 14, 2018, 09:35:02 AM
Sorry!   When I said "I haven't a clue",  I meant to add  "Please unlock".
So them as might know could have a try, please unlock.

OK. Unlocked - open for all.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: richard cuyler on February 14, 2018, 01:25:32 PM
It looks late 40s or early 50s and seems to have a USA chassis, perhaps a Chev Fleetline sedan or something similar. But what is a puzzle is the lump to the side of the bonnet, which suggests some sort of side-draft carb setup. That would probably exclude side-valve Americana, so the Chev engine or Buick or Nash are all possibilities.

Or I'm way off the mark, which is indeed an even better possibility.  :D  :o
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 14, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
We already know that it's Ford flathead-powered. I can't tell you any more about any modifications to the engine.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: D-type on February 14, 2018, 06:34:38 PM
Is it a common Portuguese name - like Fernandez?

(Fernandez-Ford has a certain ring about it)
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 15, 2018, 03:52:58 AM
Is it a common Portuguese name - like Fernandez?

(Fernandez-Ford has a certain ring about it)

I ill have to check this later. In my notes I have written two names - one is (I imagine) fairly common, although it's not Fernandez.  The other is aristocratic, and I think that's the driver.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 15, 2018, 07:18:31 AM
I have now had a chance to check as many internet sources as I can find. I am not sure now that the driver was actually the builder - my apologies if I have mislead anyone. All I need is the name of the driver, which is the aristocratic title I previously referred to.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: Fёdor on February 15, 2018, 11:32:52 AM

 Felcom
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 15, 2018, 12:59:02 PM

 Felcom

No.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 25, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
 Don Fernando Mascarenhas?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 25, 2018, 06:39:36 PM
Mário de Araúdo Cabral?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 25, 2018, 06:55:47 PM
Francisco Augusto de Quadros Vidal Corte-Real Pereira?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 26, 2018, 05:04:45 AM
Thanks for all your perseverance. All I have for this driver is his aristocratic title - an internet search does not reveal his full name.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 26, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
It seems that the commonest titles are Dukes, Marquises and Counts - is it one of these?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 27, 2018, 04:08:43 AM
It seems that the commonest titles are Dukes, Marquises and Counts - is it one of these?

Yes indeed. He was the XXXXX of XXXXX XXXX.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:33:31 PM
Count of Campo Belo
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
Count of Fonte Bela?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:36:58 PM
Count of Fonte Nova?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 27, 2018, 12:38:07 PM
Neither of those. He was indeed a Count.

He was a national champion in a certain type of motorsport in Portugal.
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:53:09 PM
Count of Monte Real? I am searching a list of counts ........
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
Count of Santa Cruz?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 12:56:15 PM
Count of Sousa Rosa?
Title: Re: NIC#914
Post by: nicanary on February 27, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
Count of Monte Real? I am searching a list of counts ........

That's him! He was Portugese Hillclimb Champion in  1952 in this car, beating rivals in Ferraris.

Another well-earned point.
Title: Re: Solved NIC#914 - Ford V8 Special (Ardun head) of Count of Monte Real
Post by: tobytwirl on February 27, 2018, 01:11:34 PM
I thank you