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Solved - NEH 5132: Graber Alvis TE21 (or TD21?) 4-door - 1964
« on: April 16, 2017, 07:19:44 AM »
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 01:42:19 PM »
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 02:13:42 PM »
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 03:23:04 PM »
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 03:43:34 PM »
Alvis TD21 by Graber, about 1961- 63?  Unusual to see a 4-door.
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 06:04:24 PM »
Quote from: fyreline on May 03, 2017, 03:43:34 PM
Alvis TD21 by Graber, about 1961- 63?  Unusual to see a 4-door.

It's a Graber Alvis but not a TD21.
Locked for you to find the right model and date; shouldn't be too difficult because, as you say, there weren't many 4-door cars from this era.
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 07:04:54 PM »
The Alvis Owners Club records show this car listed as a 1963 TD21 Series 2, chassis #26935. I would have thought it was a TE21 but the records state otherwise.
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Re: NEH 5132
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2017, 05:24:31 AM »
OK; nearly all the very few pictures that there are of this car don't say which model it is, so there is clearly some confusion.
When I was researching it I had a lot of difficulty deciding which it was but decided on the information on one particular site which said it was the last 4-door Alvis ever made, a TE21 built by Graber in 1964.
Since it has the later Graber front end which I had not seen on anything earlier than a TE21 that's what I decided upon, but you would think the Alvis Owners' Club would know..

I'll leave it open in the answer as I'm not convinced it's a TD21..

You get the point anyway.
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Re: Solved - NEH 5132: Graber Alvis TE21 (or TD21?) 4-door - 1964
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2017, 09:39:13 AM »
I'm with you on this one - the front end says TE-21 to me, not TD-21. However, the Alvis Owner's Club keeps pretty good records, and the listings are submitted by the owners of the cars - and I would think that they would know what they have.  Also, the shipping date for the chassis is listed there as January 1963, and I have often wondered how long it took Graber to actually complete and deliver the car . . . perhaps it was into 1964? In any case, a 4-door 3-litre Alvis TD-anything is pretty rare. It's a lovely car, and a great puzzle choice. I think both of us would appreciate anyone with further documented information on this car adding it here.

And thanks for the point - it's difficult when there is conflicting or unclear information about the puzzle car, and in the end, it's your puzzle and your call.
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Re: Solved - NEH 5132: Graber Alvis TE21 (or TD21?) 4-door - 1964
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2017, 12:51:22 PM »
Yes, if there's an Alvis expert out there who can say definitively what this is I'd love to hear!
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