Topic: Solved: Wendax 3675 - Magirus-Deutz O 3500 by Kässbohrer

[pguillem]

I think, these pictures show clearly, that it is not a 'Borgward-Logo' on this hood, or am I wrong?

Not Borgward, but I have troubles identifying the Ulmer Münster either. I have added the Magirus option to the title and given you a point, too. Perhaps it is the smallest and most bended Magirus-M I have ever seen on a Magirus O 3500. Hopefully we will find a definite answer some day.

Here is another similar Magirus-Deutz bodied by Kässbohrer. Does it help ?

[sichel]

Are you sure that it is a Magirus?

[Wendax]

It is labeled as such in an article about the Heinz Bröskamp bus company. As this is independent from the other source I think the identification as a Magirus-Deutz is correct, and Kässbohrer used the identical design for different chassis, with a small as possible logo for the chassis supplier.

[fromwien]

To further substantiate the thesis that the puzzle vehicle is a Magirus-Deutz with Kässbohrer bodywork:
1) A picture of exactly the puzzle car, which is called Magirus Deutz (which for inexplicable reasons whether the correctness is massively doubted)
2) Another picture showing a Magirus Deutz with a very similar Kässbohrer bodywork (which for inexplicable reasons whether the correctness is again doubted)
3) Two pictures of the Magirus Deutz O3500 bus chassis, which clearly show where the tank and the tank filler neck are located. Namely just behind the front entry
..not in the back, just in front of the rear wheels, as with the only verified Kässbohrer-Borgward.
A picture of the Borgward BO 4000 chassis would be very welcome, which may finalize a discussion, which would be worthwhile much more often on 'AutoPuzzles-website', if greedily collecting points wouldn't spoil the fun.
But only on a factual level please, which I unfortunately miss sometimes

[sichel]

Here is a Borgward chassis, but BO 4500, not BO 4000. And I wonder how meaningful the location of the tank is. To relocate it at the customer's request is really not the problem. See the picture of "Asten-Express"

[fromwien]

Thank you so much for the picture of the Borgward chassis. Me too, I only have a picture of the BO 4500 chassis, unfortunately none of the BO 4000.
I agree with you. Of course, every individual customer request can and could be met. But that never gets the rule. You just have to think about what a different mounting of the gas tank could improve. In my opinion absolutely nothing. Except for additional and unnecessary effort. In order to achieve a goal-oriented result, firstly the norm-case has to be considered. The individual solutions have to put aside.

[fromwien]

I think, these pictures show clearly, that it is not a 'Borgward-Logo' on this hood, or am I wrong?

Not Borgward, but I have troubles identifying the Ulmer Münster either. I have added the Magirus option to the title and given you a point, too. Perhaps it is the smallest and most bended Magirus-M I have ever seen on a Magirus O 3500. Hopefully we will find a definite answer some day.

Here is another similar Magirus-Deutz bodied by Kässbohrer. Does it help ?

Sorry, have forgotten before to add this proof to 'pguillem's' picture of the Kässbohrer-Magirus