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Title: Solved NIC#1286 - S.A.V. A race car (possibly 1914 TT entry)
Post by: nicanary on January 05, 2021, 05:44:40 AM: Please tell me the name of this marque. I have only scant details about its history.
Title: Re: NIC#1286
Post by: nicanary on February 07, 2021, 06:35:05 AM: Experts?
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Post by: FrontMan on February 07, 2021, 12:02:34 PM: Silver Hawk ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 07, 2021, 03:16:32 PM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 07, 2021, 12:02:34 PM
Silver Hawk ?

No.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 10, 2021, 11:03:51 AM: British ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 10, 2021, 01:24:07 PM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 10, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
British ?

No.
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Post by: D-type on February 13, 2021, 10:51:22 AM: Italian?
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Post by: nicanary on February 13, 2021, 10:56:13 AM: Quote from: D-type on February 13, 2021, 10:51:22 AM
Italian?

No.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 13, 2021, 12:33:36 PM: French ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 13, 2021, 02:09:15 PM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 13, 2021, 12:33:36 PM
French ?

No.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 13, 2021, 05:23:46 PM: American ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 14, 2021, 05:58:20 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 13, 2021, 05:23:46 PM
American ?

No.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 14, 2021, 06:36:39 AM: Spanish ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 14, 2021, 07:08:33 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 14, 2021, 06:36:39 AM
Spanish ?

No.
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Post by: D-type on February 22, 2021, 11:56:05 AM: British
Italian
French
American
Spanish

Who's left? German?
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2021, 01:07:26 PM: Quote from: D-type on February 22, 2021, 11:56:05 AM
British
Italian
French
American
Spanish

Who's left? German?

Not German.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 24, 2021, 05:06:20 AM: Czech ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 24, 2021, 05:10:07 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 24, 2021, 05:06:20 AM
Czech ?

No.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 24, 2021, 05:13:41 PM: Austrian ?
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Post by: nicanary on February 25, 2021, 04:10:54 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on February 24, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
Austrian ?

No.
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Post by: nicanary on March 08, 2021, 06:41:07 AM: Pros?
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Post by: gte4289 on March 08, 2021, 04:28:27 PM: 1921-1925?
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Post by: nicanary on March 08, 2021, 05:05:38 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 08, 2021, 04:28:27 PM
1921-1925?

The puzzle photo was probably taken then, but the car is earlier.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 08, 2021, 05:48:25 PM: Was the car built before 1917?
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Post by: FrontMan on March 11, 2021, 05:43:16 AM: ....is the dog a Metric Spaniel ? ;D
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 06:03:04 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 08, 2021, 05:48:25 PM
Was the car built before 1917?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#1286
Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 06:33:02 AM: Before 1914?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 06:59:17 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 06:33:02 AM
Before 1914?

There is some doubt over claims of the car's age, but IMO it was built before or in the year 1914.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 07:57:51 AM: Australasian?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 08:45:12 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 07:57:51 AM
Australasian?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 01:54:57 PM: European?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 02:04:46 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 01:54:57 PM
European?

Yes, but the correct country has not yet been identified.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 02:05:56 PM: Austrian?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 02:27:53 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 02:05:56 PM
Austrian?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 02:33:54 PM: Belgian?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 02:58:02 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 02:33:54 PM
Belgian?

YES! Just name the marque and the point is yours. The information I have about the car is contradictory si I can't ask for more.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 03:01:13 PM: Frenay?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 04:03:09 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 03:01:13 PM
Frenay?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:07:53 PM: Nova?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 04:09:40 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
Nova?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:13:40 PM: Hermes/Mathis-Hermes?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 04:45:01 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:13:40 PM
Hermes/Mathis-Hermes?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:47:15 PM: Springuel?
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Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2021, 05:08:57 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 04:47:15 PM
Springuel?

No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 05:41:43 PM: Excelsior?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 04:38:20 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 11, 2021, 05:41:43 PM
Excelsior?

Nope.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 06:37:16 AM: Did the manufacturer produce cars under this marque for more than 2 years?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 06:51:15 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 06:37:16 AM
Did the manufacturer produce cars under this marque for more than 2 years?

Yes.
Title: Re: NIC#1286
Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 08:18:04 AM: Ex-Dragutin Esser 4.5L Nagant GP car modified for road use in Scotland?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 10:24:49 AM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 08:18:04 AM
Ex-Dragutin Esser 4.5L Nagant GP car modified for road use in Scotland?

Not that, but it is a racing car adapted for road use.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 12:44:17 PM: FAB?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 01:08:03 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 12:44:17 PM
FAB?
No.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 01:12:28 PM: Is this the D'Aoust 10/12 HP which competed at the 1914 Meeting d'Ostende?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 01:40:02 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 01:12:28 PM
Is this the D'Aoust 10/12 HP which competed at the 1914 Meeting d'Ostende?

Not that.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 01:52:43 PM: SAVA?
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Post by: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 03:46:26 PM: Quote from: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 01:52:43 PM
SAVA?

YES!!! That's one point to you.

This photo was from a magazine which covered the life of W B Scott who was a well-known entrant at Brooklands in the 20s and 30s. He was using the SAVA as a road car, and had purchased it from another great British enthusiast Phil Padden. The car was described as a 1911/12 Grand Prix SAVA but I can find no mention of such a car in the records, although I do not possess the "Black Book" for that era. However there was a SAVA which raced in the 1914 Isle of Man Tourist Trophy (without success) and I wonder if this is that car - it was not unknown for overseas cars to be left behind and sold to a UK racer rather than transport them home.

To add to the mystery I attach a photo taken from another website which shows a SAVA abandoned on the road during WW1 and I think this could be the same car. Possibly a British Army officer was using it as his personal transport behind the front lines. Any solid identification would be apprteciated.
Title: Re: NIC#1286
Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2021, 04:06:38 PM: Quote from: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
YES!!! That's one point to you.
Thanks for the point!

Quote from: nicanary on March 12, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
To add to the mystery I attach a photo taken from another website which shows a SAVA abandoned on the road during WW1 and I think this could be the same car.
Certainly a possibility.