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Monty337 - Solved: 1904-1905 Buffum 4-4 Greyhound Eight
« on: March 07, 2018, 06:38:49 AM »
Fellow Autopuzzlers, for a point please tell me the make, model and year of this car.

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2018, 02:50:41 AM »
Up to the Experts.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2018, 01:23:37 PM »
French

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 05:01:08 PM »
It's not French.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 05:17:39 AM »
American

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 05:38:11 AM »
Yes, from the USA
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2018, 08:11:40 AM »
Perhaps a Stoddard-Dayton?

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2018, 06:00:35 PM »
No. This car is earlier than Stoddard-Dayton.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 10:53:14 AM »
Production make? Made before 1905?
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2018, 09:04:17 AM »
1906 Thomas Runabout

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2018, 03:15:16 PM »
Production make? Made before 1905?
It's from 1904 or 05
1906 Thomas Runabout
Not a Thomas
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2018, 07:16:52 AM »
Made in Michigan?
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2018, 08:08:18 AM »
Not from Michigan.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2018, 04:08:08 PM »
Was the make still in existence in 1908?
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2018, 04:14:28 PM »
Was the make still in existence in 1908?
No.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2018, 07:43:36 AM »
Was it in existence as early as 1902?
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2018, 09:17:10 AM »
Was it in existence as early as 1902?
Most sources say yes, though a couple disagree. It seems to me that it's possible that the company was oficially founded after that date, but there is no doubt that its founder had been building cars for a number of years beforehand.
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2018, 05:16:07 AM »
the company existed until 1910?

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2018, 09:49:13 PM »
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2018, 02:42:40 PM »
Ardsley?

can be seen that the car 1906-1907
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Re: Monty337
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2018, 04:19:30 PM »
Buffum?

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2018, 02:18:33 PM »
Ardsley?

can be seen that the car 1906-1907

Not an Ardley, because...

Buffum?

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2018, 03:29:18 PM »
according to my source,its a 1904-1905 Buffum 4-4 Greyhound 80hp eight ?

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Re: Monty337
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2018, 12:54:49 AM »
Yes, the point is yours!
"For two years, the little-known H.H. Buffum produced an 80hp passenger version of its 100hp Central Greyhound racing car, which was named after Central Automobile of New York. It was the first eight-cylinder engine offered in a regular-production American automobile. Described as "octuple opposed," it came from Edward Buffum's racing boats and comprised two Buffum inline-fours laid flat facing away from each other, sharing a central crankshaft, with a 4 1/2-inch bore and 5 1/2-inch stroke, measuring 699.8 cubic inches. If that isn't enough, The Automobile described Buffum's hand-hammered alloy body as "one of the finest pieces of automobile construction ever shown....This car is the work of a mechanic of the class to which all makeshift is abhorrent." Buffum topped it all off by next tilting his pair of fours up and offering a 40hp V-8 for 1905 or 1906, either the first or second V-8 in an American automobile."
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Re: Monty337 - Solved: 1904-1905 Buffum 4-4 Greyhound Eight
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2018, 02:53:06 AM »
Thank You! :)