Author Topic: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz 219 Combi by Josef Swoboda  (Read 1676 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline gte4289

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 16195
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 882
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2020, 07:09:01 AM »
Italian?

Online targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2020, 02:01:52 AM »
Not Italian.

Offline gte4289

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 16195
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 882
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2020, 02:35:15 AM »
Swiss?

Offline fromwien

  • Master
  • *
  • Posts: 14390
  • Country: at
  • Puzzle Points 920
  • Name That Car!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2020, 07:08:24 AM »
Marbach, Suisse

Online targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2020, 11:23:34 AM »
Not Swiss, so not Marbach.

Offline Hiawatha

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 2072
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 523
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2020, 01:34:41 PM »
Austrian?

Offline fromwien

  • Master
  • *
  • Posts: 14390
  • Country: at
  • Puzzle Points 920
  • Name That Car!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2020, 02:15:03 PM »
Svoboda, Austria

Online targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-P2
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2020, 05:35:15 PM »
Svoboda, Austria
Yes, this Mercedes-Benz Combi was coachbuilt by Josef Swoboda  (with W...but I think you just got a typing mistake).  Well done.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62731
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz Combi by Josef Swoboda
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2020, 03:10:42 AM »
According to the text in the ad the base car was a Mercedes-Benz 219.

Offline autospeurder

  • *
  • Posts: 206
  • Country: za
  • Puzzle Points 0
  • Contributor
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz 219 Combi by Josef Swoboda
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2020, 07:02:55 AM »
To my surprise it can really be a 219. They were built from 1956-1959 with a 2.2 litre petrol engine.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62731
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz 219 Combi by Josef Swoboda
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2020, 09:04:03 AM »
Yes it was kind of an economy six-cylinder model or a six-cylinder model of the small ponton series, regarding on the sight of view.

Offline D-type

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 8144
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 251
  • A retired civil engineer interested in cars
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz 219 Combi by Josef Swoboda
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2020, 10:21:47 AM »
I think the 219 was the 6-cylinder engine from the 220 in the smaller body of the 190, possibly with a longer bonnet to accommodate the extra 2 cylinders.
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

Offline fromwien

  • Master
  • *
  • Posts: 14390
  • Country: at
  • Puzzle Points 920
  • Name That Car!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-P2: Mercedes-Benz 219 Combi by Josef Swoboda
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2020, 11:09:34 AM »
Exactly D-Type... The technical parts of the 219 (W105) -like chassis, front and rear suspension, brake system, wheels, tank...-  are almost identical to the 190 (W121 I). As is the bodywork, from the front windshield to the rear bumper.
The difference is the front part of the 219: The front end looks like the one of the 220a (W180 I) and is 16,5 cm (6,5 in) longer than that of the 190. The wheelbase grew up to 275cm (108,27 in). This means, plus 10 cm (4 in) in comparison to the 190. These differences were necessary, to fit the engine (M180 II) and gearbox of the 220a under the bonnet. Only 27.845 examples were built from March 1956 to July 1959.