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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2020 => Topic started by: gte4289 on December 27, 2019, 05:36:09 PM
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Please identify this car for a point.
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MG TF? I am not convinced, but want to try.
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MG TF? I am not convinced, but want to try.
No
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It is a one off or a brand sold car?
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It is a one off or a brand sold car?
One-off
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Experts?
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Based on a Vauxhall?
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Based on a Vauxhall?
No
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Let's go back a step. Are the underpinnings British?
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Let's go back a step. Are the underpinnings British?
Yes
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The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
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The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
It was built in Britain.
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Based on a Rootes Group brand?
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Based on a Rootes Group brand?
No
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It appears to pre-date the formation of BMC. Is it a Nuffield Group brand?
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Based upon a Crosley?
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It appears to pre-date the formation of BMC. Is it a Nuffield Group brand?
No
Based upon a Crosley?
No
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Is it based on a Ford?
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Is it based on a Ford?
No
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Who's left? Austin?
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Austin?
No
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A MAJOR CORRECTION:
The house behind doesn't look British, hence was it built in Britain? :huh:
It was built in Britain.
My apologies! I mixed up different puzzle cars. This car was NOT built in Britain and (to my current knowledge) contains no British components other than those mentioned below:
Is it based on a Ford?
No
I've decided to add to this response as well. While not based on a Ford, the car likely contained some British Ford parts when new, and was then modified with additional British Ford component(s) at a later date.
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Is it from the southern hemisphere?
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Is it from the southern hemisphere?
Oooh, 'angry' face. (sorry)
Yes it is.
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:scratch: from New Zealand? (On the basis that it rains there)
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:scratch: from New Zealand? (On the basis that it rains there)
No
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Across the water to Australia?
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Across the water to Australia?
Yes
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Up to the Pros
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Built in the fifties ?
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Built in the fifties ?
Yes
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Built between 1950 and 1955 ?
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Built between 1950 and 1955 ?
Yes
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1954 ?
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1954 ?
Began in '50, completed in '52
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Based on a Triumph ?
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Based on a Triumph ?
As far as I am aware, this car was built without the use of any major components of British origin. That said, some of the internal transmission parts may have been Ford-sourced. I also believe the original motor may have been swapped out for a Ford unit at some later point.
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Based on an Australian Ford ?
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Based on an Australian Ford ?
No Ford components other than noted above.
(Also see that I edited my response to your previous question.)
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Apart from the Ford components, is the puzzle car based on a European car ?
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Apart from the Ford components, is the puzzle car based on a European car ?
Let's make this simple: as I understand it, the puzzle car was not based on any existing vehicle.
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Do you now where the original engine was sourced from ?
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Do you now where the original engine was sourced from ?
It wasn't. None of the major components were sourced from existing vehicles (though some of their internal parts may have been).
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Is it a Bassin ?
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Is it a Bassin ?
No, but that would be a great puzzle car as well
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Repco ?
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Repco ?
No
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Raymond ?
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Raymond ?
No
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Reville ?
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Reville ?
No
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Is the builder known for other cars ?
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Is the builder known for other cars ?
Yes
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Thomson ?
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Thomson ?
Yes! Locked for you to more specifically identify this Thomson creation.
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1949-1954 Wiles Thomson
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You have the correct car so the point is yours! I'll post more details later.
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Working with machinist Harold Clisby, Jack Thomson constructed the first 'Thomson' prototype automobile in 1938. He designed and built his own engine, transmission, differential, braking system and uni-body chassis. Thomson used this prototype to secure investment from the Wiles brothers, with whom he then produced three Wiles Thomson prototypes under the company Wiles Manufacturing Company Ltd. The Wiles brothers pulled out of the venture in 1949. (Two of these earlier prototypes have been featured on AP.)
Thomson formed his own company, Small Cars Ltd, in 1950 and began work on what would be his fifth and final prototype automobile. Jack Thomson died in 1952, leaving the unfinished prototype to be completed by his son-in-law, Doug Giles. The puzzle car is that final prototype. It is not a 'Wiles Thomson', but the one and only 'Thomson' prototype automobile produced by Small Cars Ltd.
[Based on the image you've posted, it's possible Giles stuffed in the Ford 10 motor instead of the intended Thomson 2-cylinder and that he didn't complete the project until 1954. It's wrong to label the car a 'Wiles Thomson', however.]
The completed prototype and Thomson 2-cylinder motor: