Author Topic: Solved: PN #1231 -- Renault-Scemia PN by Di Rosa&Pastre, 1926 (Read 1227 times)

pnegyesi · « **on:** April 15, 2019, 08:02:31 PM »

Please identify both chassis and coachbuilder for a point

marmer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2019, 01:49:25 PM »

1927-ish Renault PN. Body by Société des transports en commun de la région parisienne (STCRP).

pnegyesi · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2019, 11:54:03 AM »

marmer - it is a 1926 Renault PN. Coachbuilder is not that one. Locked for you for 3 attempts

marmer · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2019, 02:04:42 PM »

I should have looked more closely! Schneider H.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2019, 08:31:57 PM »

marmer · « **Reply #5 on:** April 19, 2019, 11:34:44 PM »

Really? Doesn't it say Schneider and H on the placards on top? I'll keep looking.

marmer · « **Reply #6 on:** April 19, 2019, 11:44:52 PM »

Never mind. Had to read a little French.

SCEMIA. La Société de construction et d'entretien de matériel industriel et agricole.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2019, 01:34:07 AM »

SCEMIA was involved in the chassis, but it was not the coachbuilder. One more attempt before I unlock

marmer · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2019, 01:20:13 PM »

Uhry Imre? Found a mention of them using Renault chassis in 1926.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2019, 04:01:13 PM »

no, it was a French coachbuilder. One last try before I unlock

marmer · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2019, 12:39:22 PM »

Currus? Weymann? (they didn't really do buses until later, I thought.). SOMUA? Everything I'm finding is saying SCEMIA or STCRP built them. Although that doesn't look exactly like the usual Renault PN. Could it be an older De Dion body on a prototype chassis?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2019, 03:35:20 PM »

Unlocked and moved

marmer · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2019, 11:05:12 AM »

Not Paris, therefore not STRCP. That may be the issue. Checking other French coach builders now.

marmer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2019, 03:12:45 PM »

All right, I am sorry to keep bashing on this, but I still cling to the thought that this is a Scemia body. The script on the placard on the roof is obviously the Scemia logo of the period, and the name "Renault" can be seen faintly in the background, maybe on a building or wall. This does not look exactly like the bus shown in the "Ville de Paris" Renault Scemia advertisement, but I have seen in several sources that the PN was a collaboration between Renault and Scemia, with no other coach builder involved. Additionally, I have seen that Toulouse put Renault-Scemias into service in 1926, which might explain why it has detail differences from the Paris versions. I think this is a prototype or early production Renault-Scemia PN for Toulouse, not Paris, with no STCRP involvement (hence no diamond logo on the front).

pnegyesi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2019, 04:05:27 PM »

Yes, it is a Renault-Scemia PN, but there was a coachbuilder involved

marmer · « **Reply #15 on:** May 03, 2019, 11:09:28 AM »

Million-Guiet?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2019, 12:27:35 PM »

pnegyesi · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2019, 12:55:38 PM »

Professionals?

Oguerrerob · « **Reply #18 on:** July 02, 2019, 03:34:27 AM »

Ateliers Villetaneuse?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #19 on:** July 02, 2019, 03:35:02 PM »

gte4289 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:00:12 PM »

Carrosserie Di Rosa et Pastre

pnegyesi · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2019, 04:34:14 AM »

I am feeling generous today so both marmer and gte gets a point each and I declare this puzzle to be solved

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Author Topic: Solved: PN #1231 -- Renault-Scemia PN by Di Rosa&Pastre, 1926 (Read 1227 times)