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Please be so kind and tell e ALL details about this car
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2022, 03:25:36 AM »
Experts?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2022, 02:49:37 PM »
Is it Asian?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2022, 02:21:32 PM »
Indian built Fiat 1100?
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2022, 03:29:10 PM »
It is not an Indian built Fiat 1100, but one part of your answer is partially correct

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2022, 09:26:26 PM »
Is it built by Hindustan?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2022, 03:50:10 AM »
No

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2022, 07:16:54 AM »
Fiat  bodied by Riva?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2022, 07:57:28 AM »
Developed by Fiat for a related company. Not Riva

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2022, 10:05:00 AM »
Is it a SEAT?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2022, 03:13:54 PM »
NSU Fiat?

Can you please list which details you mean by "ALL" in the question?
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2022, 05:55:56 PM »
Is it a SEAT?
It is not a SEAT, because it is..
NSU Fiat?

Can you please list which details you mean by "ALL" in the question?
..an NSU/Fiat developed by Fiat
LOCKED for D-type to find technical specifications, like engine-displacement and -construction,  way of wheel-drive, year,..
..and everything else, you could have find out about this not really well-known vehicle

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2022, 04:38:51 PM »
Manufacturing Company: NSU Fiat
Engine displacement: 1100cc
Method of construction: Unibody
Way of wheel drive [sic]: Rear wheel drive
Year: 1957
Brand Name: Neckar Europa
Place of manufacture: Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, West Germany
Make of Tyres: Continental
Make of electrics: Bosch
Make of battery: Varta

Please don't give a simple "No" if I have one part wrong - that is contrary to the spirit of Autopuzzles.
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2022, 05:39:41 PM »
Manufacturing Company: NSU Fiat NO
Engine displacement: 1100cc NO
Method of construction: Unibody YES
Way of wheel drive [sic]: Rear wheel drive NO
Year: 1957 NO
Brand Name: Neckar Europa I DON'T KNOW
Place of manufacture: Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, West Germany NO
Make of Tyres: Continental I DON'T KNOW
Make of electrics: Bosch I DON'T KNOW
Make of battery: Varta I DON'T KNOW

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Feel transported back to a cheerful kindergarten time
After four "NO's" and only one "YES" I feel sure, that you doesn't know anything about this car and I OPEN the puzzle for all again
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2022, 09:49:53 PM »
Is this a Wendler prototype for a NSU-Fiat 500?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2022, 03:31:15 AM »
It is a prototype for NSU-Fiat. Not 500 and not Wendler. As I answered previously, the car has been developed by Fiat.
LOCKED for you to find the remaining parts for a complete answer: Year? Engine-displacement? Engine-construction (in-line, V, opposed, etc)? Way of wheel-drive (front, rear, FWD,...)?

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2022, 10:34:36 AM »
Does this have anything to do with Antonio Fessia?  It looks a lot like a CEMSA Caproni with a different grille.  Horizontally opposed engine, front-wheel drive, two cylinders? (c. 1946?)

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2022, 05:03:36 PM »
Does this have anything to do with Antonio Fessia?  It looks a lot like a CEMSA Caproni with a different grille.  Horizontally opposed engine, front-wheel drive, two cylinders? (c. 1946?)
To be honest, I don't know if Antonio Fessia was involved in the development of this car. Horizontally opposed engine, front-wheel drive, two cylinders are right. Would feel happy, if you can find the year (far later than 1946) and engine-displacement

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2022, 06:07:53 PM »
Is it an NSU-Fiat F-05?  550 cc engine, 1952-53.

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2022, 06:30:41 PM »
Sorry, don't know a type. I am only missing the year and engine-displacement.
Less than 550ccm, and more than 1953

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2022, 09:36:06 AM »
How about the 479 cc opposed twin that was used in the Nuova 500?  That would have put it about 1956.

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2022, 11:50:09 AM »
1956 is correct
The Nuova 500 hasn't had a opposed-two-cylinder-engine, but a inline-twin.
Puzzle-car: Less than 479ccm and very slightly more than 399ccm

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Re: FW #412
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2022, 12:26:23 PM »
Right.  I have found sources that say that NSU was experimenting with a 400cc motorcycle-derived engine.  When bored out to 600cc it later became the basis for engine in the NSU Prinz.   Is that the one?
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2022, 04:12:27 PM »
Yes, 400ccm-engine
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Re: FW #412
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2022, 01:52:08 AM »
Right.  I have found sources that say that NSU was experimenting with a 400cc motorcycle-derived engine.  When bored out to 600cc it later became the basis for engine in the NSU Prinz.   Is that the one?
This NSU-Fiat has nothing to do with the NSU prototypes finally evolving into the Prinz. The similar engine size is pure coincidence. NSU-Fiat and NSU were two different companies.