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Please be so kind and identify this car
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2022, 03:22:17 AM »
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2022, 04:05:50 AM »
Mercedes-Benz 540K Innenlenker  'Spezial Coupé' , #130944,   the Paris Salon car 1936?

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2022, 04:18:55 AM »
No

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2022, 05:42:18 AM »
Is that another of your misleading Boolean "No's".  ie Is it a Mercedes-Benz?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2022, 07:52:49 AM »
Dear 'D-type', I feel very very sorry, if my correct answers do not always correspond with your opinions, but they are addressed to all players.
So I see no reason, why I have to face your rudeness because of this.
Short explanation:
'hermanoto' asked for a car that he had precisely defined and which only exists once:
Mercedes-Benz 540K Innenlenker  'Spezial Coupé' , #130944,   the Paris Salon car 1936?
My answer: No
Please tell me your opinion, how to answer, if this isn't the car, 'hermanoto' asked for
Awaiting your sincere reply

Picture of 'Mercedes-Benz 540K Innenlenker  'Spezial Coupé' , #130944,   the Paris Salon car 1936' attached
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2022, 09:55:34 AM »
You are asking a two part question, in this case Make (A) and model (B)

Boolean mathematical logic:
A False, B False - Answer: False
A True, B True -  Answer: True
A True, B False or A False, B True: Answer False

Normal Autopuzzles practice for a two-part question:
A Wrong, B Wrong - Answer: No, or better still: Neither
A Right, B Right - Answer: Yes
A Right, B Wrong - Answer: A is right but B is wrong
A Wrong, B, Right - Answer: B is right but A is wrong

Applying strict mathematical logic means people have to ask one part at a time even if they think the other parts are correct.  In puzzles like this you should acknowledge which parts of attempts at a complete answer are correct.

I agree that answers like "Is it a Ford Anglia or Prefect" are actually double questions and the questioner should refuse to answer even if one is correct and say why. Alternatively he could answer "Which?".  If the question had attracted several guesses, I might adopt the latter approach. I think you need to decide whether you want people to reach the answer or whether you want to mislead them.

So, is this car a Mercedes-Benz?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2022, 12:30:18 PM »
You are asking a two part question, in this case Make (A) and model (B)

Boolean mathematical logic:
A False, B False - Answer: False
A True, B True -  Answer: True
A True, B False or A False, B True: Answer False

Normal Autopuzzles practice for a two-part question:
A Wrong, B Wrong - Answer: No, or better still: Neither
A Right, B Right - Answer: Yes
A Right, B Wrong - Answer: A is right but B is wrong
A Wrong, B, Right - Answer: B is right but A is wrong

Applying strict mathematical logic means people have to ask one part at a time even if they think the other parts are correct.  In puzzles like this you should acknowledge which parts of attempts at a complete answer are correct.

I agree that answers like "Is it a Ford Anglia or Prefect" are actually double questions and the questioner should refuse to answer even if one is correct and say why. Alternatively he could answer "Which?".  If the question had attracted several guesses, I might adopt the latter approach. I think you need to decide whether you want people to reach the answer or whether you want to mislead them.

So, is this car a Mercedes-Benz?
If answers are correct, you exactly don't need to use what you meant with your statement:
I think you need to decide whether you want people to reach the answer or whether you want to mislead them

1)
'Mercedes-Benz 540K Innenlenker  'Spezial Coupé' , #130944,   the Paris Salon car 1936': In this question, I see only one special car!!! So the answer is 'Yes' or 'No'
Not: Mercedes: Yes, 540K: No, Spezial Coupe: No, 130944: No, Paris Salon: Yes, 1936: No
2)
Two part question: Alfa Romeo 1945?
If one part of this question would be right, my answer would sound like: Partly correct
3)
Best would be, to follow the rules correctly and asking only one part at a time. I think this is only fair, as it gives adventurers little chance of covering several answers with one question and robbing other players questioning options

I would like to stick to the rules and not have to constantly consider individual solutions. As this turns leisure activities into hard work

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2022, 12:32:22 PM »
So, is this car a Mercedes-Benz?

So, the car is NOT a Mercedes-Benz

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2022, 05:43:36 PM »
Then is it a modern replica?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2022, 03:36:25 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2022, 06:28:47 AM »
An Excalibur?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2022, 10:57:47 AM »
Not an Excalibur

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2022, 03:27:00 PM »
Is it a 500K replica?

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2022, 05:47:18 PM »
Yes

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2022, 02:39:35 PM »
Made by  The Classic Roadster Corporation?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2022, 05:40:38 PM »
No

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2022, 07:19:25 AM »
Made by Heritage Motor Cars, Florida
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2022, 07:45:21 AM »
No

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2022, 09:15:24 AM »
Back a step in the guessing game.  Was it built in the USA?
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Re: FW #404
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2022, 11:09:44 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2023, 05:32:20 AM »
Professionals?

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Re: FW #404
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2023, 08:26:35 AM »
2002 Graham 500K Woodie by Graham Custom Autos of California.

This one has been sitting in my queue for far too long.

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Re: SOLVED: FW #404: Graham 500K Woodie by Graham Custom Autos of California
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2023, 08:40:20 AM »
Correct! The point is yours