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SOLVED: FW #251: BMW Coupé Bertone sketch, early 50's
« on: October 24, 2021, 03:36:49 PM »
Please identify this sketch: Make? Coachbuilder? Decade?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2021, 04:04:05 PM »
Experts?

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2021, 05:04:35 AM »
Perhaps Brooks Stevens' preliminary sketch for the Willys Aero update?

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2021, 05:07:12 AM »
Sorry no. Not Brooks Stevens, not an Willys Aero update

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2021, 11:29:31 AM »
BMW looks similar to the 508 roadster?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2021, 11:44:49 AM »
BMW is a very good guess! But, sorry, I don't know about a 508 roadster? I think, you meant 507?

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2021, 11:47:20 AM »
Oops fat fingers
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2021, 12:05:51 PM »
No worry at all, please try to find the coachbuilder and approx. date of this BMW Coupé sketch

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2021, 11:58:17 AM »
A quick point for the Professionals?

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2021, 05:34:56 PM »
Design by Michelotti?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2021, 05:44:44 PM »
Might be, and I strongly believe, but all I know definitely is the coachbuilder company, the sketch was made for

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2021, 09:45:32 AM »
Allemano?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2021, 10:57:25 AM »
Not Allemano, but a well-known coachbuilder Giovanni Michelotti worked for..

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2021, 01:41:13 PM »
Vignale?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2021, 02:41:09 PM »
No

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 06:11:40 AM »
Moretti?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2021, 06:37:51 AM »
No, better known

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Re: FW #251
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2021, 08:23:17 AM »
Ghia-Aigle?
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2021, 08:46:27 AM »
Far earlier in the alphabet. Michelotti worked there during the first years of the 50's
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2021, 09:16:44 AM »
Bertone
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Re: FW #251
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2021, 11:02:32 AM »
That's it! One more point for you

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Re: SOLVED: FW #251: BMW Coupé Bertone sketch, early 50's
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2021, 02:23:01 PM »
I didn't know he worked at Bertone, although I'm not surprised as he seemed to work just about everywhere..
Strange it doesn't mention Bertone in the Fondazione Negri book "Giovanni Michelotti - una matita libera" though..
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Re: SOLVED: FW #251: BMW Coupé Bertone sketch, early 50's
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2021, 02:50:59 PM »
Michelotti took up work (about 1950-1953) for Bertone, while the coachbuilding-world changed completely with the presentation of the new Fiat 1400 with its self-supporting bodywork. In 1952 Franco Scaglione followed Giovanni Michelotti at Bertone.
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Re: SOLVED: FW #251: BMW Coupé Bertone sketch, early 50's
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2021, 03:03:44 PM »
I have to add, that, during this partnership with Bertone, Michelotti always worked as a freelance-designer, not employed by Bertone. This may be the reason, why there is nothing mentioned about the Bertone-partnership in the Michelotti Negri book.
I don't want to reveal too much within this statement. I think, during the next years, the  Michelotti-Bertone-partnership will find a resurrection at 'AutoPuzzles'

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Re: SOLVED: FW #251: BMW Coupé Bertone sketch, early 50's
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2021, 03:30:41 PM »
Michelotti took up work (about 1950-1953) for Bertone, while the coachbuilding-world changed completely with the presentation of the new Fiat 1400 with its self-supporting bodywork. In 1952 Franco Scaglione followed Giovanni Michelotti at Bertone.
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