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Title: SOLVED: FW #215: Pierce Arrow Convertible Sedan Van den Plas 1930
Post by: fromwien on December 03, 2021, 11:23:26 AM: Please identify this car: Make? Coachbuilder? Year?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 01:02:32 PM: Experts?
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 01:27:12 PM: Horch 853 ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 01:30:49 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 01:33:56 PM: ...so not a Horch ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 01:35:52 PM: Yes, not a Horch
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 02:04:37 PM: ....then, Maybach ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 02:18:30 PM: Also not Maybach
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Post by: sichel on December 10, 2021, 02:33:57 PM: German?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 02:43:04 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 04:37:04 PM: Gräf und Stift ? :idea:
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 04:51:28 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 05:36:29 PM: American base?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 05:55:53 PM: First part solved: Yes
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 06:07:56 PM: Pierce Arrow ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 10, 2021, 06:32:22 PM: Yes, it is a Pierce-Arrow.
LOCKED for you to find year and coachbuilder (3 trials)
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Post by: FrontMan on December 10, 2021, 06:58:22 PM: 1931, by Gläser ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 04:15:48 AM: It is 1930, but not Gläser
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 07:20:38 AM: ....but a German coachbuilder ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 07:21:28 AM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 07:50:27 AM: LeBaron ?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 08:26:53 AM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 10:00:25 AM: American coachbuilder?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 10:06:17 AM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 11:17:05 AM: Austrian builder?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 11:30:12 AM: No
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 11:31:45 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 07:50:27 AM
LeBaron ?
Sorry, forgot to unlock: NOW UNLOCKED
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 01:47:18 PM: Swiss?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 03:01:53 PM: Not Swiss
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Post by: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 04:33:28 PM: Eastern Europe?
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Post by: fromwien on December 11, 2021, 05:35:29 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 12, 2021, 08:37:38 AM: Scandinavia?
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Post by: fromwien on December 12, 2021, 09:46:56 AM: No
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Post by: D-type on December 12, 2021, 02:32:36 PM: US coachbuilder?
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Post by: fromwien on December 12, 2021, 03:08:50 PM: Quote from: D-type on December 12, 2021, 02:32:36 PM
US coachbuilder?
No
Quote from: FrontMan on December 11, 2021, 10:00:25 AM
American coachbuilder?
No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 13, 2021, 05:30:14 AM: Western Europe?
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Post by: fromwien on December 13, 2021, 07:24:59 AM: Yes
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Post by: FrontMan on December 13, 2021, 09:55:57 AM: Spain?
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Post by: fromwien on December 13, 2021, 01:20:33 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 13, 2021, 04:51:17 PM: Italy?
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Post by: fromwien on December 13, 2021, 05:25:07 PM: No
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Post by: FrontMan on December 13, 2021, 06:00:04 PM: France?
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Post by: D-type on December 13, 2021, 06:04:29 PM: Is it . . . a British coachbuilder?
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Post by: fromwien on December 14, 2021, 03:15:13 AM: Quote from: FrontMan on December 13, 2021, 06:00:04 PM
France?Not France
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Post by: fromwien on December 14, 2021, 03:24:36 AM: Quote from: D-type on December 13, 2021, 06:04:29 PM
Is it . . . a British coachbuilder?No
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Post by: Roman1986 on December 14, 2021, 04:18:16 AM: Petera?
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Post by: fromwien on December 14, 2021, 08:33:12 AM: No
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Post by: D-type on December 14, 2021, 09:03:30 AM: A Pierce Arrow

But where does the coach builder come from?
Western Europe
Germany
Austria
France
Britain
Spain
Switzerland
Scandinavia
Italy
Where's left? The Netherlands?
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Post by: fromwien on December 14, 2021, 10:14:44 AM: Not from the Netherlands
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Post by: gilescooperuk on December 14, 2021, 01:35:24 PM: Belgium
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Post by: fromwien on December 14, 2021, 02:03:00 PM: Yes, it is Belgium
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Post by: fyreline on December 14, 2021, 07:43:53 PM: Vanden Plas, perhaps?
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Post by: fromwien on December 15, 2021, 04:14:38 AM: Yes, lucky shot! Congratulation to your next point!
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #215: Pierce Arrow Convertible Sedan Van den Plas 1930
Post by: fyreline on December 15, 2021, 11:19:30 AM: Lucky is right . . . if it hadn't been Vanden Plas, my final guess would have been d"Itineren Freres, and that would have completely exhausted my knowledge of Belgian coachbuilders. It's a very elegant car, especially more so to me without the signature fender-mounted headlamps which were a Pierce-Arrow hallmark. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #215: Pierce Arrow Convertible Sedan Van den Plas 1930
Post by: FrontMan on December 15, 2021, 11:25:07 AM: :thumbsup: :applause:
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #215: Pierce Arrow Convertible Sedan Van den Plas 1930
Post by: fromwien on December 15, 2021, 11:31:51 AM: Thanks to all of you, interested in this puzzle of a very rare car and picture shot
I felt a little bit astonished, that 'FrontMan' identified the car so early as 'Pierce Arrow'. That's worth one of the sichel-bees for him!
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #215: Pierce Arrow Convertible Sedan Van den Plas 1930
Post by: FrontMan on December 15, 2021, 06:15:20 PM: Many Thanks for the coveted 'sichel-Bee'! I've never attempted to count the number of Pierce-Arrows which rejected their traditional headlamp arrangement, but there can't be many. Having accepted the possibility in this case, the wheels, and even the fuzzy radiator seemed to fit in. That "Teutonic" folding top was very distracting, nonetheless. A classic Autopuzzles "puzzle". :)