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SOLVED FW #33 Jim Meikle (Belfast) Cooper 500 MKV, Snecma-Turbine, Goodwood 1957
« on: November 17, 2020, 02:40:31 PM »
Aerodynamical...

Please identify this car for one point!
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2021, 02:47:48 PM »
Experts?
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 03:44:58 PM »
Fritz von Opel's Rocket Car;....when it was a little boy ;D
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2021, 04:54:30 PM »
Rocket Car looks good to me!...
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2021, 05:56:22 AM »
1933, by J. Winkler ?
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2021, 08:10:00 AM »
Sorry, no... Far newer...
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2021, 09:08:14 AM »
....late '40s ?
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2021, 09:35:18 AM »
No
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2021, 01:56:52 PM »
Rocket powered Cooper?
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2021, 02:39:18 PM »
Yes
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2021, 04:41:03 PM »
Jim Miekele cooper 500 mk 5 powered by snecma pulse jet engine
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2021, 05:00:14 PM »
Locked for you! It is Jim Meikle,... and if you tell me year and where, the point will be yours...
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2021, 03:42:15 PM »
1956 , Silverstone
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2021, 03:46:00 PM »
Shortly afterwards, in GB, on another track... One more trial for you
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2021, 08:00:25 AM »
I don't know if this one is going anywhere - it seems to have stalled - but I believe the venue is Kirkistown.
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2021, 08:20:05 AM »
Dear Willie McCrum, I will open for all, as I think, shamrock lost interest to solve this puzzle. It is not Kirkistown. Please tell me the correct year, as it will be not easy to find the right track, because of the photoshop-corrected background of the puzzle-picture. A hint: Very well known track in the UK
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2021, 05:04:09 PM »
I don't think it's fair to photoshop a background away and then ask where it was.  That means it has to be a blind guess.  Is it Goodwood?
If it is, no point please.
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2021, 06:25:39 PM »
Dear D-type, you are right, it is Goodwood. But, as you wish, i won't you award with the point.
But I have to answer your criticism about fairness:
1) You may have been right, if I would have details photoshopped away, relevant to answer my questions correctly. But: I DIDN'T! See the original picture attached. There is no landscape visible, nothing that shows the race track, where the trial took place! Only persons and the service truck. Both could be everywhere!
2) 'shamrock' didn't answer correctly (wrong written name). Nevertheless I locked for him.
3) 'shamrock' answered the next questions with a wrong year (1956). Absolutely impossible, as the car has been ready very late winter 1956/57 for tests, and (to my knowledge) never in Silverstone
4) Again I had still locked for him, for a next trial
5) 'Willie McCrum' answered with 'Kirkistown'. Where the car did the first trials. Then I gave him an very obvious hint. This hint made solving the puzzle as easy as anyway possible!
6) In your reckoning, what's more to do?
7) Your accusation was neither fair nor appropriate. Check the original photo and then tell me the 'Goodwood-relevant-details', which you cannot find on my photoshopped puzzle-picture.
Wait for your fair answer and hopefully enjoy once your puzzles, fromwien
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2021, 07:00:20 PM »
It was a generalised comment.  Sometimes the most trivial of details can be a clue.  In this case I agree it makes no difference.  But the signwriting on the truck might have offered a clue.  Possibly the hills in the background could say it is not Snetterton. 
Blanking something out is allowed, but I feel that it is not if it changes the picture.  To illustrate the point, I agree that it is fine to do something like blanking out a maker's badge on the radiator grille or nose of a car, but this should be done in a way that shows a detail has been removed.  It is wrong to show the car with a complete grille and no badge or a flawless nose.

The reason I went for Goodwood was a mixture of "If not Silverstone, where could it be?" and a half memory of reading of the pulse jet powered Cooper having been demonstrated there.
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2021, 08:02:10 AM »
I absolutely respect your opinion, but as a generalised comment, I think, the discussion reached the wrong address.

It even gets harder to find puzzles not easy to solve by unfair means. Due to overwhelming internet-possibilities... If a puzzle-picture can be found on the net, the only chance to make the puzzle more complicate, is to 'correct' it with 'photoshop' within the currently applicable regulations. This isn't an enjoyable task at all. I personally consider that as uncomfortable work. I bear that unloved work, if people enjoy puzzles. And this should be the goal at all...
Don't we just play cars for sheer joy?

Please tell me the year and the point is yours.....
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2021, 09:39:43 AM »
Remember that using Google "Search by Image" is banned.  That is a totally different use of the Internet from saying "I think that is a Figoni and Falaschi bodied Standard 10" and googling to find confirmation of your hunch.  If people choose to break the rules, ie cheat, that is their look out.

But what I do consider wrong is something I encountered on a recent puzzle.  Someone had superimposed a background that looked like Britain or Ireland on a photo of a Chinese car.  I wasted some time searching for an Irish connection.  That is deception rather than simply concealing obvious clues.  Is that any different from putting a Ferrari badge on a Maserati?

It's all a question of degree.

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Re: FW #33
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2021, 07:41:27 AM »
Very easy point for everyone... Only the year is missing, all other detail solved....
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2021, 08:59:12 AM »
Quote from: fromwien on November 17, 2020, 02:40:31 PM
Aerodynamical...

Please identify this car for one point!


Quote from: shamrock on January 06, 2021, 04:41:03 PM
Jim Miekele cooper 500 mk 5 powered by snecma pulse jet engine

I don't know if you gave shamrock a point for this, but he has really answered the question you asked so has earned it.
If more is needed to earn the point then it needs to be asked in the initial question!  You can add more questions later but only if a point has already been awarded for answering the questions asked!
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Re: FW #33
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2021, 09:35:19 AM »
Ok. For closing this puzzle I will give 'shamrock' and 'D-Type' each one point, . Complete description to follow
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