Author Topic: Hotchkiss Leyland Sleeper cab Fr GB BdI 2 (Read 1210 times)

Bill d isere · « **on:** August 21, 2021, 08:45:29 AM »

For a point, please tell me what brands this cabin carries and what more does the second brand bring?

In addition to the point, I give full consideration to the person who gives the correct answer.

SolanaBogon · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2021, 04:51:36 PM »

Willème BMC?

Bill d isere · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2021, 05:22:05 AM »

Bill d isere · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2021, 05:58:51 AM »

Bill d isere · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2021, 05:56:48 AM »

Expert ?

sichel · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2021, 06:40:39 AM »

Saviem?

FrontMan · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2021, 07:56:50 AM »

Leyland Super Comet, as built under licence in Spain by E.N.A.S.A. (who built the Pegaso sports cars)?

Bill d isere · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2021, 08:59:08 AM »

not know
not spain
But Leyland for half, without details of the precise model.

sichel · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2021, 09:22:04 AM »

One licence products of Dodge 300?

Bill d isere · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2021, 11:03:24 AM »

No
The other manufacturer involved is not English

FrontMan · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2021, 11:15:00 AM »

Leyland Riever?...Riever being originally an Albion model name, but only the Albion transmission and cab fixation were incorporated into this Leyland version.

SolanaBogon · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2021, 12:11:23 PM »

Is the second company French?

sichel · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2021, 12:23:50 PM »

Some of these Bankfield-cabbed Leylands were sold in Israel under the name "Ashod".

sichel · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2021, 12:29:09 PM »

The "Ashods" might be equipped with this cab. This also should be sold with an Hotchkiss-brand. The Leyland truck-history is rather obscure,

Bill d isere · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2021, 12:40:51 PM »

Sichel, you have the whole answer in this picture
I block for you

sichel · « **Reply #15 on:** August 28, 2021, 12:46:44 PM »

Open your eyes, that helps you to see. The answer is Hotchkiss-Leyland, with Leyland and Hotchkiss brands.

sichel · « **Reply #16 on:** August 28, 2021, 01:32:43 PM »

This cabin was produced by Brossel, Belgium and, among others, used by Ashod, Haifa. Here you see Brossel and Asod:

Bill d isere · « **Reply #17 on:** August 28, 2021, 02:11:56 PM »

Your answer was modified after mine.
Hotckiss is well involved here. But you are not giving away what his presence has brought to this cabin.

sichel · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2021, 04:03:34 PM »

Do you ask for the history of the connection between Leyland and Hotchkiss? I get the following informations from imternet and hope they are reliable. In the mid-1960s, Leyland wanted to strengthen its market position. Hotchkiss had problems and so it was agreed that Leyland trucks were to be assembled at Hotchkiss. This project failed quite quickly. Therefore Leyland took over the belgian company brossel to build cabs and vehicles there.

Bill d isere · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2021, 03:38:20 AM »

Your info is reliable, no worries with that.
What I am asking is what Hotchkis did in particular on this cabin which did not exist at Leyland or afterwards.
Moreover, the cabin is provided by Motor Panels which itself does not offer the specificity provided by Hotchkiss.

sichel · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2021, 04:25:02 AM »

The search has been very exciting so far, but but now we have to dig a little deeper. Please give me some more time for this.

Bill d isere · « **Reply #21 on:** August 29, 2021, 04:36:11 AM »

Of course.
Read the text on your flyer, the solution is undoubtedly there

sichel · « **Reply #22 on:** August 29, 2021, 04:52:56 AM »

That can take time, my last French lesson lies almost 50 years back. Do you happen to know where I can find my dictionary my dictionary for technical french.

Bill d isere · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2021, 05:31:04 AM »

My last German lesson is even older than that!

So just look at a noticeable difference between your various photos.

sichel · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2021, 08:25:21 AM »

I'll get to work on untying the knot. The flyer describes the design of the Brossel cab:
Sheet steel sleeper-cab on a steel frame (picture six), but there also were short-versions under "Brossel"-branding (see above).
"Motor Panel" also used sheet steel for their short-cabins (picture one), sleeper-cabs were converted by Bankfiel (picture two).
But unlike brossel, there were also plastic cabins (picture three), but I have no information who built it.
To top it all off, there was also the short-door version of the LAD-Cab (picture four), LAD means Leyland, Albion, Dodge.
Here the "Motor Panels" range from 1958 in full beauty (picture five).
Is the confusion big enough now? But confusion is nothing unusual at Leyland. In Germany, "British Leyland" was called
"British Elend", Elend = misery. Or do we still want to talk about the different versions of Leyland, Albion and Dodge? How about the License- and CAD-Versions in Turkey, Israel or India?

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Author Topic: Hotchkiss Leyland Sleeper cab Fr GB BdI 2 (Read 1210 times)