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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2024 => Topic started by: BERTRAND on December 11, 2023, 08:44:31 AM

Title: Phoenix GN Special
Post by: BERTRAND on December 11, 2023, 08:44:31 AM

Please, identify this car and when

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Post by: BERTRAND on December 21, 2023, 04:29:41 AM

expert

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Post by: D-type on December 21, 2023, 01:31:15 PM

Is it a Frazer Nash?

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Post by: BERTRAND on December 21, 2023, 03:26:09 PM

not Frazer Nash

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Post by: BERTRAND on March 24, 2024, 08:30:13 AM

pros

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Post by: nicanary on March 24, 2024, 12:02:57 PM

GN ?

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Post by: BERTRAND on March 24, 2024, 01:25:13 PM

not GN

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Post by: nicanary on April 22, 2024, 08:31:13 AM

Is this the Phoenix Special ?

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Post by: BERTRAND on April 22, 2024, 11:17:23 AM

Yes it is.  Now I locked the puzzle for you for give me the year

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Post by: nicanary on April 22, 2024, 11:31:20 AM

My source says 1922.

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Post by: BERTRAND on April 22, 2024, 12:03:11 PM

we don't have the same sources.  still locked

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Post by: nicanary on April 23, 2024, 06:56:46 AM

This is interesting. It IS a GN, contrary to your post #6, and is owned by Ben Enticknap. I can find the car on various sites, including Facebook, Flickr and old Chateau Impney events. They all mention 1922.. However, the GN was manufactured from 1913 to 1922 almost without any major change, and it could date from any of those years. It is clearly fitted with a V-twin JAP 998cc.

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Post by: BERTRAND on April 23, 2024, 08:45:37 AM

Me I have Phoenix Jap. I've found this photo on the web

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Post by: nicanary on April 23, 2024, 12:03:05 PM

This is getting more complicated. In News & Information Allan Lupton has posted information about a GN Phoenix Special raced by Tom Rolt which was constructed in 1936. My information says this had a Bugatti Brescia engine, and looks nothing like a GN, even if the chassis is one. Was the present-day Phoenix an attempt to put the car back to its original state?

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Post by: BERTRAND on April 24, 2024, 04:59:22 AM

I found this puzzle in a blog dedicated to cyclecar under the name Phoenix. I also see that on Flickr it also has the name Phoenix GN Special. So I'm going to validate it under that name and give you the point nicanary

Title: Re: Phoenix GN Special
Post by: nicanary on April 24, 2024, 06:09:02 AM

Thank you. I'm sorry I ruined your puzzle by being difficult. I think they're are probably the same car - Tom Rolt built the Phoenix in 1936 and it was a GN chassis with Bugatti engine and the modern streamlined body in the photo. For some reason it has been restored as a more original GN with V-twin engine (if it is the same car - of course there could be 2 Phoenix Specials!).