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Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« on: March 12, 2010, 05:32:33 AM »
Maybe a tough one...
Make and designation for a point!
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Re: 387. by Allemano
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 06:08:53 AM »
to the next level!
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Re: 387. by Allemano
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 09:47:49 AM »
It is a Fiat-based Murena, and the coachbuilder was something like Baldelli...
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Re: 387. by Allemano
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 09:51:22 AM »
Quote from: franck.kegelart on March 25, 2010, 09:47:49 AM
It is a Fiat-based Murena, and the coachbuilder was something like Baldelli...
:faint:

Where the hell did you got this from? (seemingly from a French source, like me!)
Coachbuilder Baldelli came from Sicilia, but I do not know much more about the car!

Additional infos are highly appreciated!
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »
I don't know much myself about this car... I have the same pic with some explanations in a Spécial Salon issue of the french periodical L'Auto-Journal ; there is also a little notice in Roger Gloor's book Alle Autos der 70s...
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 10:42:33 AM »
Exactly my source! The 1972 edition of "Le Salon De L'Auto " published by L'AUTO-JOURNAL.

And the Gloor book says in its chapter for small series cars: Baldelli presented 1971 in Turin a weird looking 2+2 coupe which was named 'Murena'. Equipped with 1,3l or 1,6l Fiat engines a small series was planned. Remarkable was the odd-shaped rear side window.
(unfortunately hardly to see on that pic)
I guess it must be featured in one of the period Italian magazines like QR as well. Maybe PJ or 75america take a look?
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 01:04:46 PM »
I was wating for this too...  :-\
Carrozzeria Baldelli was from Capo d'Orlando, Messina.
It's a 2+2 studied for 1200 to 1600cc engines.
It is featured on Quattroruote #191.
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 01:08:53 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2010, 01:04:46 PM
I was wating for this too...  :-\

to solve or to share infos?
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 01:13:45 PM »
both...
there are few lines on the Beaulieu too, with nothing more than what's already been wrote.
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 01:15:10 PM »
Nothing in the '71 QR issues?
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2010, 01:17:28 PM »
Yes, in the #191, and in the same issue is featured another car, still unsolved....
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 01:25:24 PM »
some more pictures in that issue?
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2010, 01:29:58 PM »
A drawing of the car, more or less from the same angle, with the side of the car more visible: nothisg wrong with the rear-window, it seems.
I'll upload it, but not these days...quite busy...
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2010, 01:32:02 PM »
OK, thank you!
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2010, 02:00:00 PM »
Never too busy...
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 02:31:06 PM »
Thank you! :thumbsup:
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2010, 04:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
Yes, in the #191, and in the same issue is featured another car, still unsolved....

 :scratch: Something that already arrived in the pro section (or beyond)?
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2010, 05:43:55 PM »
Unfortunately not!
Hope we won't wait ten years to bring it to light...
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 01:37:40 PM »
Quote from: 75america on March 25, 2010, 04:14:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
Yes, in the #191, and in the same issue is featured another car, still unsolved....

 :scratch: Something that already arrived in the pro section (or beyond)?

:scratch:
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 02:13:46 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on March 28, 2010, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: 75america on March 25, 2010, 04:14:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 25, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
Yes, in the #191, and in the same issue is featured another car, still unsolved....

 :scratch: Something that already arrived in the pro section (or beyond)?

:scratch:

It was this:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11393.0
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2010, 02:21:22 PM »
A-ha! Thanks.
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 07:59:15 AM »
Hi!

My name is Debora Baldelli and I can tell you a bit more about Murena. Murena was created by Angelo, Gianni and Giorgio Baldelli. Giorgio is my father, Gianni and Angelo are my uncles. Gianni still has a car workshop in Rome; Angelo worked several years projecting (drawing) car engines (sorry, don't know the specific name of that), even for Lamborghini. Now Angelo lives in Brazil. Giorgio my father was responsible for making me a car lover, kind of a family tradition. Unfortunately he passed away a few years ago.

Angelo would love to talk about Murena. If you have any questions, he can answer them in English, Italian, French and Portuguese. I have just sent him a picture of Murena last week (I have lots of pictures) and it's in his profile picture at facebook. Go talk to him overthere:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002068684607

I have a video about Murena, it was recorded at a Swiss TV many many years ago. I will do my best to upload it at youtube.

Sorry if I can't give more details, I just think my uncle Angelo is the best person to do that. I will send him this forum query just after I click on the "post" button :)

Thanks for all your interest about my family's car. I was really happy to read all of this.

Best,
Debora Baldelli


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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 08:04:21 AM »
WOW! These are good news!
Thank you so much for posting Debora!
Maybe that will start a new discussion for a Autopuzzles.com account at FB!
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 08:11:43 AM »
Ciao Deborah,

benvenuta ad Autopuzzles!
Please try to share some pictures of this interesting car and once you let your uncle join this forum, don't leave...you are a car lover after all  ;)
I'll be in Rome next week, can you give me the name of Gianni's workshop? If I'll have time I can try to contact him!
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Re: Solved: 387. by Allemano - 1972 Baldelli Murena
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 08:57:31 AM »
At least one picture I already could save from A. Baldelli's fb profile:
« Last Edit: March 03, 2011, 09:01:40 AM by Allemano »
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