Author Topic: Solved - MJW #1007 - Bugatti Type 49 Saloon Erdmann & Rossi? or Keibl? (Read 2182 times)

Quote from: woodinsight on November 01, 2012, 02:57:43 AM
Quote from: Trommel on October 31, 2012, 04:37:19 PM
T49 bodied by Erdmann & Rossi.
Yes it's a Type 49 but not bodied by a German coachbuilder

Interesting - it is according to the Bugatti Trust's records; chassis 49151, registered SI-DV 49 in Germany.

Hmm.....yes I've just checked the Bugatti Trust's records and you are correct.
I had picked the image off what I assumed was a reliable source on the 'net where it was posted as a body by Keibl.
Normally the information on Bugattis should be reliable as there is so much information available and I didn't think to check.
What I'm going to do then Trommel is to give you one point for the correct identification and another point for pointing out my error.

woodinsight · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2012, 10:29:22 AM »

Here's another photo -

João · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2012, 10:43:11 AM »

Weird...I'm pretty sure It's a Keibl creation.

woodinsight · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2012, 10:50:00 AM »

Quote from: João on November 01, 2012, 10:43:11 AM

Weird...I'm pretty sure It's a Keibl creation.

Well I didn't question it originally..... $:-\$
Could it originally have had an Erdmann & Rossi body and was later rebodied by Keibl?

João · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2012, 10:55:56 AM »

Owner: W. Kuchel (D), since 1974

Former owners: Fr. Schuh (A), Fr. Prinz (A)

I have a picture showing the Keibl badge somewhere, I'll search.

bentleybob · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:07:13 PM »

I have this one down as a Keibl body as well..

woodinsight · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:22:04 PM »

Joao and Bentleybob - it would be great coup if we could establish this as a Keibl body.
AutoPuzzles strikes again!

Bill Murray · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2012, 04:39:20 PM »

I can now add a third vote for Keibl. Just found the car on what I consider
an excellent source. Probably same source as Joao and Bentleybob.

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2012, 05:01:16 PM »

Quick, alert the Bentley Trust. They might be wrong!

Trommel · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2012, 06:02:12 PM »

Interesting. Found on the internet?

I've also found reference to a T46 bodied by Ferdinand Keibl, but it could be a typo. There is a T49 roadster, also without running boards, which seems to be unambiguously attributed to Erdmann & Rossi (chassis 49424).

The Bugatti Register makes mention that the car in question appeared at Schloss Bensberg Classics 2009, but that car is actually chassis 49377, bodied by Gangloff:

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2012, 06:56:30 PM »

The Gangloff is very similar, but the doors are hinged differently. All four doors on the puzzle car open from the front. On the Gangloff, they open from the rear.

woodinsight · « **Reply #23 on:** November 02, 2012, 02:14:40 AM »

It looks as though this one is yet to be solved.
Admins - advice required - should I remove it from the Solved section and reinsert it in the Pros?

Carnut · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2012, 05:32:19 AM »

Quote from: woodinsight on November 02, 2012, 02:14:40 AM

It looks as though this one is yet to be solved.
Admins - advice required - should I remove it from the Solved section and reinsert it in the Pros?

No, I don't think it should be a puzzle in the Pro's again as all the possible answers seem to have been mentioned already but you are looking for confirmation of which one is correct.
In those circumstances you could change the heading to include the different options with question marks and hope someone can come up with the correct answer, but the trouble is leaving it then in the Solved section it will just get lost and forgotten as it passes down the pages.
I could move it to the Pro's and Feature Writers if you prefer so it remains 'alive'?

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Author Topic: Solved - MJW #1007 - Bugatti Type 49 Saloon Erdmann & Rossi? or Keibl? (Read 2182 times)

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