grob´s 2026 03 28 strange 4 seater race car

[grobmotorix]

I never saw another 4 seater where person #3 and #4 were positioned directly behind an open wheel...
Which company built this race car for which event?

[grobmotorix]

Experts?

[grobmotorix]

Pros?

[nicanary]

Built for Gordon Bennett Trophy ?

[grobmotorix]

Built for Gordon Bennett Trophy ?

Indeed!

[nicanary]

I think the year might help. 1902 ?

[grobmotorix]

I think the year might help. 1902 ?

one year younger...

[nicanary]

Is it the Durkopp ?

[grobmotorix]

Not Dürkopp.

[nicanary]

Did the car actually compete in the race, or was it eliminated in the trials ?

[grobmotorix]

Did the car actually compete in the race, or was it eliminated in the trials ?

The text of the original source claims it was "victorious".
Not sure if it only was successful in its class though.

[nicanary]

There were only 3 competitors, 2 Panhards and a Mors. A Panhard was the only finisher and this isn't it. This is confusing - the Gordon Bennett Cup was run in conjunction with the Paris-Bordeaux road race, and I wonder if this car was competing in the latter.

[nicanary]

Could it be the Thorn and Hogan ?

[grobmotorix]

Now we're in the unfortunate situation where I didn't properly save my source.
All I know is that the photo was published in a magazine from 1903—and unfortunately,
I no longer have any additional text or context available.
It's possible the vehicle was in use before 1902—in fact,
the only thing I can say for certain based on the source is the manufacturer.

Could it be the Thorn and Hogan ?

> no, sorry.

[nicanary]

The engine looks too big to be a voiturette or light car. Is it the Delahaye ?

[grobmotorix]

No - it was built by a well known German brand.

[nicanary]

It doesn't look like a Mercedes - is it an Otto ?