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Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« on: June 09, 2011, 05:34:24 AM »
A new group puzzle with five coachbuilt cars.
I don't know the coachbuilders and in some of them I don't know also other infos, so:

UC1a : one point for make, model and coachbuilder - Castagna Alfa Romeo 6C 2300B - 75america
UC1b : one point for make, model and coachbuilder. I think this is a car with a complex story... - Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 SS restored by Juri Aljoshin - Wendax
UC1c : I have a make and model (and coachbuilder) which I believe not true: one point for them but another point if you can give me proofs this is or this is not the correct ID of that car! - Alfa Romeo 3000 SS by Carrozzeria Amadei (??) - 75america
UC1d : one point for make, model and coachbuilder
UC1e : one point for make, model and coachbuilder
An additional point if you can say where and when all the pics were shooted...

The puzzle isn't solved until I have all the coachbuilders!!!
Obviously I need proofs to give you the points...
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« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 05:25:17 AM by Iluvatar »
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 06:49:55 AM »
I think this is a little difficult for rookies, and I move up early...
I hope nobody would blame me for it...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 07:00:09 AM »
UC1e  :Siata Amica 1939?

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 07:11:12 AM »
UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 11:29:20 AM »
UC1e  :Siata Amica 1939?
As I said before I don't know the cars, so you should prove it.
The year is correct so I locked it for you until your next reply.
UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?
OK, the original body should be Touring, but I think the front of this car is something different...
Locked for you until your next reply.
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 11:57:55 AM »
The badge on the radiator of uc1b looks diamond-shaped.  Riley?  If so it could be that rather special Riley built in France either immediately before or after WW2.
Just a feeling.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 03:23:30 PM by D-type »
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 01:33:46 PM »
UC1e is a ------------------------------

sorry: it's still locked.

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 01:38:40 PM »
UC1a should be a 1938 Fiat 1500 with Viotti body and a later rebuilt front-end. Probably refurbished after a post-war accident.
 

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 06:47:56 AM »
UC1a should be a 1938 Fiat 1500 with Viotti body and a later rebuilt front-end. Probably refurbished after a post-war accident.
 
I have another make...
...and another year...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 07:05:09 AM »
UC1c is a Fiat 1900 by Colli?

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 08:11:56 AM »
UC1c is a Fiat 1900 by Colli?

Different make also for this...but as I said I don't know the cars for sure!
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 04:53:24 AM »
UC1e  :Siata Amica 1939?
As I said before I don't know the cars, so you should prove it.
The year is correct so I locked it for you until your next reply.
UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?
OK, the original body should be Touring, but I think the front of this car is something different...
Locked for you until your next reply.
Last call for SACO.
You have 24h until I unlock the puzzles.
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 11:40:37 AM »
The puzzle is now unlocked.
als15 if you want to say what UC1e is...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2011, 04:36:18 PM »
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2011, 06:35:12 PM »
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !
??? I'm not sure: many parts are quite similar, but the nose is definitely different. Perhaps a poor repairing after a small accident?

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2011, 03:34:49 AM »
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !
??? I'm not sure: many parts are quite similar, but the nose is definitely different. Perhaps a poor repairing after a small accident?
I'm not really sure about the poor repairing...the car in the picture is at an Elegance Concours, so I think it's something more then poor...but everything is possible...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2011, 06:06:24 AM »
I'm going away for a while...
You can do every discussion you want on these cars, and when I'll be back I'll see...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 04:20:53 AM »
UC1d : Bugatti T49 1931 .

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 09:52:17 AM »
UC1d : Bugatti T49 1931 .
Type 49 is correct, I don't know the year...
...now let's go with the coachbuilder...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 03:06:00 PM »
Up to the pros...
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 03:15:21 PM »
#1b: It is an Alfa Romeo 8 C 2500 SS, which was found with a destroyed body in Russia. It was rebuild by Juri Aljoshin using old photos.

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2011, 03:50:47 PM »
Just to add a little to Wendax's reply above, here is a photo of the car and an extract from an article on classic cars in Moscow.

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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 03:55:52 AM »
It was me who posted UC1c on that other interesting forum:
Alfa Romeo 3000 SS (???) by Carrozzeria Amadei
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 04:02:36 AM »
UC1a: Alfa is a 6C2300B by Castagna
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Re: Unknown Coachbuilders #1
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 05:16:13 AM »
#1b: It is an Alfa Romeo 8 C 2500 SS, which was found with a destroyed body in Russia. It was rebuild by Juri Aljoshin using old photos.
Although a 8C 2500 SS never exist (it's most likely a 6C 2500), I give you the point...
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