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Re: si_500
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2023, 03:13:40 PM »
Voll ?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2023, 04:35:43 PM »
No
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2023, 01:42:54 PM »
Early 60s?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2023, 01:56:08 PM »
Mid 60s.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2023, 02:11:28 PM »
Obscure coachbuilder?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2023, 02:16:06 PM »
Yes!!
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2023, 02:20:00 PM »
I'm so happy...
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Re: si_500
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2023, 02:26:21 PM »
I am glad I could do you a favour ;)
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2023, 02:31:09 PM »
Böbel ?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2023, 02:38:25 PM »
No.
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Re: si_500
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2023, 02:47:00 PM »
@ pguillem and Hiawatha: To avoid misunderstandings: The builder was unknown, but had help from a fairly well known coachbuilder.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2023, 05:19:44 PM »
Quote from: sichel on October 31, 2023, 02:47:00 PM
@ pguillem and Hiawatha: To avoid misunderstandings: The builder was unknown, but had help from a fairly well known coachbuilder.

Looking for visual similarities. Is this well-known coachbuilder Vetter ?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2023, 06:13:22 AM »
Not Vetter. The similarities with the products of the professional coachbuilder are limited.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2023, 09:45:15 AM »
I was referring to this Magirus-Deutz
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Re: si_500
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2023, 10:05:47 AM »
Yes, the windscreen looks similar, but the rest...
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2023, 12:21:26 PM »
FAKA ?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2023, 12:31:35 PM »
No.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2023, 01:15:02 PM »
Wankmiller ?
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Re: si_500
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2023, 01:59:38 PM »
No.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2023, 02:34:11 PM »
No more guesses here.
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Re: si_500
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2023, 08:57:33 AM »
There are still many areas in Germany that have not been searched...  For a better understanding: The result was teamwork between the customer and the coachbuilder. The frame was designed and constructed together and then built by the customer. Then this skeleton was driven to the coachbuilder!!! where it was sheet metaled, glazed and painted.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2023, 04:45:55 PM »
Up to the Masters.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_500
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2023, 04:55:56 PM »
Müller, Stolpen in collaboration with Fleischer, Gera
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Re: si_500
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2023, 05:13:29 PM »
During construction:
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Re: si_500
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2023, 05:16:08 PM »
..and another picture
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