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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #175 on: February 11, 2018, 02:34:42 PM »
It seems that two of the loose ends can be tied together: Rust Y, the BT750 racer and Water 13, Castle Square fountain with the BT Building in the background, Swansea. And the latter can be linked with Extension o, a concept proposal for a Triumph Vitesse 6 luxury tourer by Luke Sellars, Swansea Metropolitan University Design School. (A big thank you is in order to Pal, who did the hard part by identifying that obscure Czech racing car. I had no idea what it could be.)

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #176 on: February 12, 2018, 06:12:47 PM »
I feel I'm not making much progress on this, and as Pal has suggested, solving the rest of this puzzle may well be a team effort.

So to throw something into the arena, and working backwards, I have come across Extension l before. It's McKinley Street in Bellefontaine, Ohio, which was claimed to be the shortest street in the world. It isn't, though it may well be the shortest street in America. According to the Guinness Book of Records, Ebenezer Place in Wick, in northern Scotland, is the shortest, at just over 2 metres long.

Bellefontaine, Ohio, also lays claim to the oldest road in America to be surfaced with Portland cement. That's Court Avenue, which is Water 17.

But what's the rust connection? Cars were made in Bellefontaine in the early 20th century, and I suspect the connection is Rust D, but I can't identify it. The car called the Bellefontaine didn't look anything like that. Could it be a Zent? Other than that I'm stumped at the moment.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2018, 02:18:58 AM »
I feel I'm not making much progress on this, and as Pal has suggested, solving the rest of this puzzle may well be a team effort.

So to throw something into the arena, and working backwards, I have come across Extension l before. It's McKinley Street in Bellefontaine, Ohio, which was claimed to be the shortest street in the world. It isn't, though it may well be the shortest street in America. According to the Guinness Book of Records, Ebenezer Place in Wick, in northern Scotland, is the shortest, at just over 2 metres long.

Bellefontaine, Ohio, also lays claim to the oldest road in America to be surfaced with Portland cement. That's Court Avenue, which is Water 17.

But what's the rust connection? Cars were made in Bellefontaine in the early 20th century, and I suspect the connection is Rust D, but I can't identify it. The car called the Bellefontaine didn't look anything like that. Could it be a Zent? Other than that I'm stumped at the moment.

So far, so good. The solution triple is indeed D - 17 - l. The two places in Bellefontaine are correctly identified, the car has no geographical connection to Bellefontaine, but looking for a name might be a good idea. This combination is locked for you.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #178 on: February 13, 2018, 11:35:07 AM »
Does the name Bartholomew have anything to do with it?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #179 on: February 13, 2018, 11:55:54 AM »
No, getting colder

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #180 on: February 13, 2018, 12:14:39 PM »
What about Logan?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #181 on: February 13, 2018, 12:30:08 PM »
No

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #182 on: February 13, 2018, 01:21:48 PM »
Rust P is a mystery for me. At first glance it looks like a Simca 1000, but the front panel seems to have had a shield-shaped badge at the centre, something I don’t remember to have seen on any version, Abarths included. Indicators are odd, too… Am I wrong when I think that it is a Simca – maybe an obscure special edition, or one that has undergone some customization by the owner – all the same?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #183 on: February 13, 2018, 05:00:53 PM »
Rust P is, despite its looks, not a Simca. Furthermore it is not a private customization.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #184 on: February 14, 2018, 05:34:59 AM »
I'll have to give up on D - 17 - l, unless the car is a Luc Court, but I don't think it is, as I can't find one that looks like D.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #185 on: February 14, 2018, 06:39:36 AM »
Unlocked then.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #186 on: February 14, 2018, 11:10:37 AM »
Following that failure, let's have a go at Rust P, which I think is a De Carlo SL from Argentina, based on a BMW 700, but having a distinct look of a Simca 1000 about it. I wasn't too sure, initially, because all other examples I've seen pictures of have had twin headlamps, but I eventually found the web page where this car is for sale, and that's what its owner thinks it is. Maybe the front panel has been modified, or perhaps there were minor differences during (the very limited) production.

That would link to Water 25, the Fontana di Re Carlo II (King Charles II Fountain) in Naples, better known as the Fountain of Monteoliveto.

The location would then link to Extension j, an Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A with bodywork by Carrozzeria F. Giordano Bottazzi of Naples.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #187 on: February 14, 2018, 11:57:37 AM »
Another perfect answer!

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #188 on: February 14, 2018, 04:03:59 PM »
Extension i is a Lincoln Tomaso Versailles, a special cut-down version of the common sedan. Searching for a connection with Versailles, France, I found Water 23, a member of a series of small baroque fountains placed along the two sides of the Allée des Marmousets (aka Allée d’Eau). A work of Louis Lerambert, it is called Danseurs et danseuses… and I have no idea how I could link it to an automobile. Another case for a team effort, it seems.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #189 on: February 14, 2018, 04:27:27 PM »
This ought to be getting a bit easier, as the available options are reduced, but it doesn't seem to be.

Rust 2, the Singer Gazelle: I've spent weeks trying to find a Gazelle connection, but now I think it's just been a brilliant piece of misdirection.

Does Rust 2 link with Water 7, the fountain at Elvis Presley's birthplace in Tupelo, Mississippi, the connection being that Elvis was a singer?

I can't work out the Extension, though.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #190 on: February 14, 2018, 05:21:17 PM »
This ought to be getting a bit easier, as the available options are reduced, but it doesn't seem to be.
That’s what I feel, too. The further we get in this game, the more difficult it is to move forward.
A small step: Extension k is a Ford Scorpio / Granada Mk.3 design proposal by Harm Lagaay from 1985. It is the missing part of the K - 10 - ? combination, I think.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #191 on: February 16, 2018, 03:48:11 AM »
Extension i is a Lincoln Tomaso Versailles, a special cut-down version of the common sedan. Searching for a connection with Versailles, France, I found Water 23, a member of a series of small baroque fountains placed along the two sides of the Allée des Marmousets (aka Allée d’Eau). A work of Louis Lerambert, it is called Danseurs et danseuses… and I have no idea how I could link it to an automobile. Another case for a team effort, it seems.
Correct so far, the connection to one of the rusty cars is quite straightforward though.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #192 on: February 16, 2018, 03:58:38 AM »
This ought to be getting a bit easier, as the available options are reduced, but it doesn't seem to be.

Rust 2, the Singer Gazelle: I've spent weeks trying to find a Gazelle connection, but now I think it's just been a brilliant piece of misdirection.

Does Rust 2 link with Water 7, the fountain at Elvis Presley's birthplace in Tupelo, Mississippi, the connection being that Elvis was a singer?

I can't work out the Extension, though.
Exactly!  ;D
I must admit that I made a mistake by thinking the fountain was at Graceland, so the extension is not connected to Tupelo. Sorry for that.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #193 on: February 16, 2018, 04:01:03 AM »
This ought to be getting a bit easier, as the available options are reduced, but it doesn't seem to be.
That’s what I feel, too. The further we get in this game, the more difficult it is to move forward.
A small step: Extension k is a Ford Scorpio / Granada Mk.3 design proposal by Harm Lagaay from 1985. It is the missing part of the K - 10 - ? combination, I think.
And another one solved.  :)

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #194 on: February 16, 2018, 04:36:13 AM »

I must admit that I made a mistake by thinking the fountain was at Graceland, so the extension is not connected to Tupelo. Sorry for that.

In that case, is the extension connected to Memphis, Tennessee?

And do I get a lock for 2 - 7?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #195 on: February 16, 2018, 04:53:30 AM »
And do I get a lock for 2 - 7?
For sure, Rust B - Water 7 locked for you.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #196 on: February 16, 2018, 04:54:01 AM »
In that case, is the extension connected to Memphis, Tennessee?
Yes

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #197 on: February 16, 2018, 08:14:32 AM »
Of the remaining extensions, I reckoned it had to be x, a late 1940s Plymouth "Woody". Knowing the Memphis connection was a great help, as searching for "Plymouth Station Wagon" and "Memphis" brings up this picture. The car was donated to the Memphis Academy of Art by a benefactor in 1949, and was used for field trips and mobile exhibitions.

So Rust B: Singer Gazelle - Water 7: The "Fountain of Life" at the birthplace of singer Elvis Presley - Extension x: Plymouth Station Wagon owned by the Academy of Art in Memphis, Tennessee, where the Presley family moved to in 1948.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #198 on: February 16, 2018, 09:36:27 AM »
Rust R has been frustrating me for quite a while, as I was fairly sure I had identified it as a BSH, a French kit car intended to be based round a Renault 8 Gordini as donor car. The initials are from the surnames of François Benais and Max Saint-Hilaire, who produced the kits. Up until now, however, I've found it impossible to make any connection to any of the Water entries.

One thing I learned early on while Autopuzzling is that you often have to use search terms in different languages, given the international nature of the membership and the subject material. I don't know why I didn't do it before, but assuming that the car would be in France, and quite likely be for sale, I searched using "BSH voiture à vendre", and found the actual car, and very instructive it was too.

It seems that the first owner, a M Guiry, included his own name when registering the vehicle, so the documentation shows it as a BSH Guiry.

From there it's a short leap to Water 21, a water pump in Guiry-en-Vexin, in the Val d'Oise in northern France, and from there to Extension b, electric all-terrain vehicles which can be hired at the Château de Guiry for use by visitors with reduced mobility.

So Rust R: BSH Guiry - Water 21: Water pump at Guiry-en-Vexin - Extension b: All-terrain mobility vehicles at the Château de Guiry-en-Vexin.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Water edition
« Reply #199 on: February 16, 2018, 11:32:36 AM »
Extension i is a Lincoln Tomaso Versailles, a special cut-down version of the common sedan. Searching for a connection with Versailles, France, I found Water 23, a member of a series of small baroque fountains placed along the two sides of the Allée des Marmousets (aka Allée d’Eau). A work of Louis Lerambert, it is called Danseurs et danseuses… and I have no idea how I could link it to an automobile. Another case for a team effort, it seems.
Correct so far, the connection to one of the rusty cars is quite straightforward though.
There is only one car left, Rust C. I thought it was a VW of some sort, but I guess it is a Brazilian Ford Versailles Royale. (Thanks for the hint!)