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Title: Solved: PN #913 -- Fritz Weinhold Sportwagen, 1949
Post by: pnegyesi on July 03, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
Who built this? What engine it used? A point is waiting for you!
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 10, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
Experts?
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Post by: targhediferro on July 11, 2016, 04:13:24 AM
EMW?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 11, 2016, 04:33:03 AM
no
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 12, 2016, 06:52:22 PM
Are those wheels from a Jowett Jupiter?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 13, 2016, 12:38:37 AM
no
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Post by: el_monty on July 13, 2016, 12:30:08 PM
VW-based?
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Post by: pguillem on July 13, 2016, 02:15:13 PM
Skoda ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 14, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
there are various bits in the car, but there was no Skoda. And yes, there were some VW Beetle bits in the suspension, but the chassis, engine came from other cars
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Post by: kwgibbs on July 14, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
are the various bits from other cars ,all from the same country that went into this car?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 14, 2016, 10:25:23 AM
no
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 15, 2016, 09:04:52 PM
FIAT 1100?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 15, 2016, 11:33:22 PM
no
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 16, 2016, 07:29:24 AM
DKW/Auto Union?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2016, 08:08:24 AM
no bits from those either
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 16, 2016, 06:32:46 PM
Wartburg?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2016, 11:43:58 PM
no
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 17, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
That short bonnet makes me think that the engine is at the front, and therefore probably front wheel drive. The wheels however are quite large and hard to pin down. Is it anything to do with Trabant or something  else from eastern Europe?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 20, 2016, 11:49:50 AM
as for the engine: nothing to do with Trabant or any other car from the CEE region
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 21, 2016, 08:19:23 PM
Pity I was going for Aero Minor next. Was the car made in West Germany - it appears to be left hand drive.
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: pnegyesi on July 21, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
yes, the car was made in West Germany
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 22, 2016, 08:13:13 PM
I cannot place those wheels, but typically that sort of perforated wheel was found on British cars. Is there a British connection with the engine or drivetrain?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 24, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
no, no connection that I am aware of

Professionals- here's your chance
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Post by: nicanary on July 24, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
I assume that because it's not EMW, then it's also not BMW-engined?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2016, 01:33:53 AM
it's not BMW engined
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Post by: oko94 on July 25, 2016, 02:44:44 AM
Is the engine German ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2016, 01:41:52 PM
no
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Post by: oko94 on July 25, 2016, 05:06:31 PM
Is the engine British ?
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Post by: tobytwirl on July 25, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
Is the engine Italian?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2016, 11:41:44 PM
Italian engine
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Post by: oko94 on July 26, 2016, 12:51:13 AM
Is the engine manufacturer still active ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 26, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
the brand is still with us, the manufacturer went through numerous changes and has been merged into another company
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Post by: oko94 on July 26, 2016, 02:17:01 AM
Lancia engine ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 28, 2016, 11:42:22 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on July 28, 2016, 12:37:17 PM
Is it a car engine or a motorbike engine ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
neither
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Post by: oko94 on July 29, 2016, 11:23:42 AM
 :o

Alright, is it an engine from a commercial vehicle ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
no
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Post by: Hiawatha on July 29, 2016, 01:58:48 PM
Aero engine?
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Post by: Hiawatha on July 29, 2016, 02:16:23 PM
If so Isotta Fraschini?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 30, 2016, 05:54:27 AM
not an Aero engine, not from IF
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Post by: oko94 on July 30, 2016, 05:55:26 AM
Stationary engine ?
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Post by: Hiawatha on July 30, 2016, 06:45:25 AM
Marine engine?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 31, 2016, 11:32:15 PM
it was powered by a marine engine
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Post by: oko94 on August 01, 2016, 02:30:45 AM
BPM engine ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 01, 2016, 04:50:18 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on August 01, 2016, 04:55:41 AM
VM engine ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 01, 2016, 05:00:09 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on August 01, 2016, 10:54:59 AM
Lombardini engine ? Lombardini now belongs to the Kohler group, which fits the hint you gave earlier.
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 01, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on August 01, 2016, 11:28:22 AM
Selva engine ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 01, 2016, 11:33:32 AM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on August 01, 2016, 04:28:15 PM
What's left...Ruggerini?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 02, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
A very well known brand was not mentioned so far.
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Post by: Hiawatha on August 02, 2016, 08:05:57 AM
Maserati?
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Post by: oko94 on August 02, 2016, 08:17:26 AM
Ansaldo ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 02, 2016, 10:30:28 AM
neither nor
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Post by: oko94 on August 02, 2016, 10:37:56 AM
Ducati ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 02, 2016, 11:22:01 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on August 02, 2016, 11:45:56 AM
Iveco engine ?
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Post by: Hiawatha on August 02, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
VM ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 02, 2016, 12:22:42 PM
no 2x
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Post by: oko94 on August 02, 2016, 12:26:15 PM
Fiat engine ?
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Post by: Hiawatha on August 02, 2016, 12:28:44 PM
Alfa Romeo?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 02, 2016, 03:48:02 PM
it was powered by an Alfa marine engine
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Post by: oko94 on August 03, 2016, 02:45:00 AM
Is the builder known for other cars ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 04, 2016, 12:57:52 PM
no
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Post by: oko94 on August 05, 2016, 05:48:37 AM
Can it be found online ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2016, 10:31:51 AM
unfortunately no
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: grobmotorix on October 08, 2016, 05:04:52 AM
It was called "Alfa Romeo Sportwagen" at a 1950 German post war fair:

I wanted to place it as a mystery puzzle the next days...
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: pnegyesi on October 08, 2016, 11:19:52 AM
so far so good :) It's not a mystery, I have the builder's name and a description
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 08, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
Knief?
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 10, 2016, 01:35:37 AM
no
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 11, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
I am really interested in this...
It does not look too elegant in my eyes - especially the front grille bars look quite clumbsy.
So I guess it might have been exeuted and designed by a German company based upon a pre-war racing or sports car chassis.

Has it been built by a coachbuilding company or was it built by one individual person?
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 11, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
person
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Post by: grobmotorix on October 12, 2016, 12:28:36 PM
 :P

I really hope this will be solved...
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: pnegyesi on October 12, 2016, 02:31:30 PM
you just have to visit a library :)
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 10, 2018, 01:43:49 AM
To the Black Hole
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 10, 2018, 01:49:41 AM
To the Black Hole
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 04, 2018, 08:14:32 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 12, 2016, 02:31:30 PM
you just have to visit a library :)

On line library?
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 04, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
I believe it is now available online
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Post by: gte4289 on November 01, 2018, 01:48:43 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on October 08, 2016, 05:04:52 AM
It was called "Alfa Romeo Sportwagen" at a 1950 German post war fair:
I realize this is a post-war photo, but the man in the leather trench coat looks like a villain from an Indiana Jones film.
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: grobmotorix on December 17, 2018, 10:56:39 AM
Was this one also the work of Karl Heinz Vagt?
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: pnegyesi on December 17, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
no
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Post by: knewit on January 08, 2022, 05:51:18 AM
The car is a German Eigenbau by Fritz Weinhold from Hamburg  based on an Alfa Romeo Spezial Roadster with a 2.5 L Alfa Marino engine from 1949 The chassis was from a Mercedes 170V. Germam ace Georg Meier did some demonstration laps during the 1949 Hamburger Stadtpark Rennen.
Title: Re: PN #913
Post by: pnegyesi on January 08, 2022, 07:41:08 AM
 :bow: :hail:

Hooray! Congratulations. Two points for you!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #913 -- Fritz Weinhold Sportwagen, 1949
Post by: knewit on January 08, 2022, 08:16:26 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Solved: PN #913 -- Fritz Weinhold Sportwagen, 1949
Post by: grobmotorix on January 08, 2022, 08:27:50 AM
Finally!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #913 -- Fritz Weinhold Sportwagen, 1949
Post by: fromwien on January 08, 2022, 08:53:00 AM
 :applause: