Author Topic: Solved -PJ716 - Mario Grassi in a Fiat 500 spider Zagato at the 1938 Parma-Poggio di Berceto  (Read 5079 times)

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I know where this picture was taken, but not the year.
I have a generic name for it but I'm looking for more.
1 point if you can identify this racer.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 09:51:27 AM »
Well, the easy part is that it's a Fiat 500 A based car, probably with a Siata modified engine....

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 11:47:54 AM »
Well, the easy part is that it's a Fiat 500 A based car, probably with a Siata modified engine....
Actually I have 2 names for this (like Maker-Maker) and none is Fiat.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 05:04:19 PM »
Mmm.....wheels are Fiat 500...perhaps a firm that used Fiat parts?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 09:25:16 PM »
Simca 5? But would be very strange with Milan license plate? ???

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 01:22:02 AM »
I thought it was a Siata of some sort but the caption says something different.
The names I have are not Fiat or Simca or any etceterini's.
I am sure of the event.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 11:55:44 AM »
An event that took place in Italy I guess ?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 12:53:38 PM »
is the car Italian?
FRIUL LIBAR

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 02:24:07 PM »
yes and yes.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 06:06:10 PM »
Om?
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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2016, 01:42:54 AM »
much known and both still active...

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2016, 02:47:42 AM »
Lancia-Abarth ?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2016, 02:52:56 AM »
no & no.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:44 AM »
Alfa Romeo - Giannini ?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2016, 03:41:00 AM »
Maserati-Benelli?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2016, 06:08:06 AM »
you both are half right.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2016, 06:09:10 AM »
Maserati-Giannini ?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2016, 06:22:36 AM »
still half right...

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2016, 06:34:38 AM »
Alfa Romeo-Maserati ?

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2016, 06:51:03 AM »
Yes, Alfa-Maserati is the name I have.
When (I don't know) and where (I do) was this picture taken?
Who built it (I don't know)?
Still much to do for this Pro-point.
No locks, it was pure blind guessing, so far ;)
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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2016, 07:48:51 AM »
I know where this picture was taken, but not the year.

When (I know) and where (I don't) was this picture taken?

Make up your mind  ;D

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2016, 07:56:53 AM »
I know where this picture was taken, but not the year.

When (I know) and where (I don't) was this picture taken?

Make up your mind  ;D

Fixed  ;D

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2016, 07:58:38 AM »
This picture was taken at the start of an Italian event. I don't know the year it took place, but the event it's not totally and terribly obscure.

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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2016, 12:22:53 PM »
Yes, Alfa-Maserati is the name I have.
When (I don't know) and where (I do) was this picture taken?
Who built it (I don't know)?
Still much to do for this Pro-point.
No locks, it was pure blind guessing, so far ;)
I don't know this car... but Alfa-Maserati sounds really strange for such a small car... how can an Alfa or Maserati engine fit in that car?? ???
The shape of the bonnet and the general proportions are that of a sporty Topolino (maybe by Zagato).
But being on AutoPuzzles... nothing is what it seems to be! :D


Edit: as already stated by targhediferro...
Well, the easy part is that it's a Fiat 500 A based car, probably with a Siata modified engine....
« Last Edit: February 20, 2016, 12:46:03 PM by Iluvatar »
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Re: PJ - 716 - Open to ALL
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2016, 12:33:14 PM »
I don't know this car... but Alfa-Maserati sounds really strange for such a small car... how can an Alfa or Maserati engine fit in that car?? ???
The shape of the bonnet and the general proportions are that of a sporty Topolino (maybe by Zagato).
But being on AutoPuzzles... nothing is what it seems to be! :D
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