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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2011, 03:17:03 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
Well done Limo - first point goes to you.

This car was my NEH 1076 puzzle waiting to be posted!
And like an idiot I didn't pick up on it...!
Well done Limo.
There was always a risk that one of these was lined up as a future puzzle.
Sorry about that Carnut.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2011, 03:18:58 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz

It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.
Quite a different body style.
I'll award you a point in addition to Limo's original ID for that clear illustration of the differences between the two.


Thank you.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2011, 01:23:36 PM »
Another picture of #18, the Faka Motorrikscha:

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2011, 07:13:52 PM »
20 dates from Italy 1948 and is based on the Fiat Topolino. One source refers to it as 'Midget'.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2011, 03:38:31 AM »
20 dates from Italy 1948 and is based on the Fiat Topolino. One source refers to it as 'Midget'.
Thanks for that Quiller.
I'll call it solved and award you the point.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2011, 04:16:26 PM »
6. I've found this same picture with two differents tags: one as a Fiat Merco and the other as Umbau Mercedes Stern. That's what I've found so far keep digging.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2011, 04:19:57 PM »
6. I've found this same picture with two differents tags: one as a Fiat Merco and the other as Umbau Mercedes Stern. That's what I've found so far keep digging.

It all refers to it being a Fiat disguised as a Mercedes-Benz ("Merco") by the way of fitting a Mercedes star (Stern = star, Umbau = modification).

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2011, 09:15:17 PM »
MJW #363-05 Ferrari-Triumph
1957 Triumph TR3 Special: A genuine, authentic piece of American Vintage Motor Sports History. This 1957 Triumph TR3 was sold as a new car in Portland, Oregon USA and has never left. It still wears it's original 1957 number plates yet all that remains of the original TR3 is the chassis plate, frame, front suspension, windshield wiper motor, tail lights and fuel cap. More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton. The doors, floors, firewall and bulkheads are all hand formed aluminum, the tilting one piece front end is glassfiber over tubular frame. As originally constructed the car retained it's TR3 engine and drivetrain and wire wheels as per the old photos showing the car in 'as discovered' condition about 15 years ago.
The points highlighted on the eBay listing are its body which has been described as coach built and also stresses the point that it is a combination of hand-worked aluminum and glass fiber. The other highlights of the car as per the listing include an Edelbrock manifold and carburetor, TH350 transmission and a Ford 9” limited slip differential. There’s also an integral roll bar, four-link rear suspension and wide 275/50R15 rubber. The seller on eBay believes that the wiring of this car is of exceptional quality.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2011, 11:12:22 PM »
MJW #363-05 Ferrari-Triumph
1957 Triumph TR3 Special: A genuine, authentic piece of American Vintage Motor Sports History. This 1957 Triumph TR3 was sold as a new car in Portland, Oregon USA and has never left. It still wears it's original 1957 number plates yet all that remains of the original TR3 is the chassis plate, frame, front suspension, windshield wiper motor, tail lights and fuel cap. More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton. The doors, floors, firewall and bulkheads are all hand formed aluminum, the tilting one piece front end is glassfiber over tubular frame. As originally constructed the car retained it's TR3 engine and drivetrain and wire wheels as per the old photos showing the car in 'as discovered' condition about 15 years ago.
The points highlighted on the eBay listing are its body which has been described as coach built and also stresses the point that it is a combination of hand-worked aluminum and glass fiber. The other highlights of the car as per the listing include an Edelbrock manifold and carburetor, TH350 transmission and a Ford 9” limited slip differential. There’s also an integral roll bar, four-link rear suspension and wide 275/50R15 rubber. The seller on eBay believes that the wiring of this car is of exceptional quality.
Thanks for that additional information Oguerrerob.
Sadly it doesn't mention the builder, possible name or year of conversion.
I'll leave it as unsolved for the moment until a more positive identification is established.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2011, 09:52:37 AM »
The year of the conversion probably 1998 (Watch out the photo dates)

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2011, 11:23:32 AM »
Apparently 1998-99
« Last Edit: July 16, 2011, 11:28:17 AM by Oguerrerob »

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2011, 11:35:17 AM »
According to this car album this guy called it TR3 1957 Special (TR3 R3)
« Last Edit: July 16, 2011, 11:38:10 AM by Oguerrerob »

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2011, 05:29:18 PM »
Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2011, 12:57:22 PM »
1] Two more photos of the Farago Fiat 1100

2] I can confirm this car is built on a 1950 Jowett Javelin chassis and carries a 1962 London registration. The body is not any proprietary item I've ever seen before. As far as I know even the recent owners of this car have not been able to find out who built it!

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2011, 01:33:56 PM »
Thanks a million for these extra photos barrett.
Images are so important for pinpointing eventual identification.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2011, 03:31:54 PM »
The already identified #2, the Meyra Motorwagen 56, is by the way exactly the one pictured as #22 in my threewheeler group puzzle: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16004.50
I saw it today at the Winsen/Luhe veteran car meet with the "Three wheels on my wagon" picture #22 attached to it as a "before restoration" picture.
The car in the background to the left of #2 is an Albany I saw today too. Sometimes, the world is a village.  ;)

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2011, 03:38:46 PM »
Thanks for that Wendax.
It never ceases to amaze me how pieces of the puzzles come together here.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2011, 04:54:40 AM »
Last sunday in Winsen/luhe with the pre-restoration photo at the windshield

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2011, 02:09:23 PM »
I've found this: TWRR LM220C
"Built by Tom Walkinshaw this version of the XJ220 Jaguar super car was raced in the GT endurance championship and at the Le Mans 24hrs 1993, were it finished 15th and first  in GT class, later to be disqualified by the ACO on a technical specification issue.
TWRR are in the development stages of recreating this car from scaled drawings and CAD software to provide the enthusiast with a replication of the original cars.  Supplied in part built and complete Built-to-Order format the TWRR LM220XJC will be a  stunning replication offering usability and drive-ability on the road, despite being a race car replica.  There are few comforts planned for the interior, except air con, but the real thrill of owing one of these cars will be the sound of the Jaguar V12 or supercharged V8 motor purring less than 12 inches behind you as you accelerate.
The body is high strength composite with a strong tubular space frame chassis, running gear comes from Jaguar as does the braking system but you will have the option to change the discs and calipers to your preferred manufacturer.  Various engines and states of tune are available to you along with colour schemes and wheel design.
For something stunning and very rare, why not choose the  TWRR LM220C ?
During the current development process and discussions with interested parties as to what the key features were that they would like to see in this new kit, one main question has been asked; “Does it have to be so big, I don’t think I will get it in my garage”.  Taking this onboard, the final version of the car will follow Tom Walkinshaw’s development decision  from Prototype to production and reduce the actual size.  We intend to scale down to achieve a max width of 6’ 6” which might still offer a squeeze to some garage entrances and gateways but it is believed will meet the majority, therefore enabling TWRR to offer Kit, Part Built and Built-to-Order to a wider market with a product that not only financially but size-wise, will allow more enthusiasts aspire to this fantastic recreation"

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2011, 03:55:14 AM »
Interesting find Oguerrerob but I don't think it's the mystery XJ220.
If you compare the overblown rear wings with the TWR or original version I think you will agree that it is an amateur attempt to copy the XJ220.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2011, 07:05:20 AM »
Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.

I understood the car now sports a Chevy 350 cu in V8...
« Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 04:47:50 AM by Carnut »
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2011, 06:32:20 PM »
Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.

I understood the car now sports a Chevy 360 cu in V8...
I can well believe that!

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2011, 02:18:10 AM »
#7: Jowett Special ?

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2011, 04:19:41 AM »
#7: Jowett Special ?
I think we have now established (see replies 43/44) that it is a Jowett Javelin based special but I need to know who built it, etc. for a point.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2011, 07:50:22 AM »
I looked at #16 maybe a hundred times and everytime I get the feeling there could be a Aston Martin connection. I think I've seen this pic somewhere else before (not that source written on the pic) Could it be maybe related to the AM Atom?