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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2011, 07:53:57 PM »
It looks different from the other Bidee cars I've seen but they do seem to differ in details. I would assume it was either that or by Di Mola (SP?) as they also used that grille shape. I'm sure I've actually seen that picture before somewhere but I have no proof either way.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2011, 11:04:35 PM »
It looks different from the other Bidee cars I've seen but they do seem to differ in details. I would assume it was either that or by Di Mola (SP?) as they also used that grille shape. I'm sure I've actually seen that picture before somewhere but I have no proof either way.
I didn't think of Di Mola.
If the nationality of the registration number could be established it could help.
Unfortunately the image is not very clear even after I sharpened it up somewhat.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2011, 02:24:02 AM »
I wonder if the Pros know any of these?

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2011, 02:28:22 AM »
As I said before there's at least one repost under these.
It is #14:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10206.0

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2011, 02:38:57 AM »
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"Paul Farago had his own special bodies made up on Fiat 1100 chassis. Here he pauses to look at a Fiat Topolino Giardiniera at Watkins Glen in 1949."

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2011, 02:39:45 AM »
As I said before there's at least one repost under these.
It is #14:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10206.0
Very good!
You still gain a point even if it's a repost.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2011, 02:50:43 AM »
#11
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"Paul Farago had his own special bodies made up on Fiat 1100 chassis. Here he pauses to look at a Fiat Topolino Giardiniera at Watkins Glen in 1949."
Excellent!
It's obviously smaller than it looks in my photo which was why I thought it was based on a US chassis.
Another point for you.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2011, 02:52:12 AM »
#1- It is badged 'Lotus' but it's not. I'll post the article I have
#2- Meyra Typ 56.
#3- Emeryson 2-seater 1954
#4- It's an american fiberglass car...I have more pics of it
« Last Edit: April 23, 2011, 03:19:52 AM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2011, 04:42:11 AM »
No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2011, 09:00:10 AM »
#6 I have this same picture as a Fiat Merco. I'll search for more info.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2011, 09:00:24 AM »
#1- It is badged 'Lotus' but it's not. I'll post the article I have
#2- Meyra Typ 56.
#3- Emeryson 2-seater 1954
#4- It's an american fiberglass car...I have more pics of it

#1 - I also have an article on this car (in French) which I'll post after you post yours!
#2 - Thought it must have been easy to identify but my source had no caption.
#3 - Thank you I had no idea what it was.
#4 - Yes I've seen those pics also but identification remains elusive.

So two points for you for the Meyra and the Emeryson.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2011, 09:03:03 AM »
Here's the article :

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2011, 09:08:44 AM »
No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2011, 09:10:07 AM »
#6 I have this same picture as a Fiat Merco. I'll search for more info.
Thanks, it would be great to have a positive ID

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2011, 09:13:15 AM »
Here's the article :


Thanks PJ, that's the same article I have.
I'm not sure there was any response to the article at the time but I don't think so otherwise I would have noted it.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2011, 09:31:19 AM »
Here's a few more views of these conundrums -

Nos. 01, 05, 07, 08 & 09


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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2011, 09:47:25 AM »
No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan
I found the photo and what I wrote above is complete rubbish as I was remembering something else but I don't know what.
Anyway, I should have remembered that the Rapier, like most British crossflow engines, has nearside exhaust pipes
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2011, 10:05:36 AM »
No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan
I found the photo and what I wrote above is complete rubbish as I was remembering something else but I don't know what.
Anyway, I should have remembered that the Rapier, like most British crossflow engines, has nearside exhaust pipes
Thanks for trying. If anyone can solve this one it is you......

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2011, 12:01:02 PM »
Those look like Jowett Jupiter wheels and hubcaps on No 7.

I checked the DVLA database, and there is a car with that registration number which is currently licensed (assuming I've read it correctly and the last letter is W - it looks a bit narrow).

It's registered as "Jowett Javelin" in the "make" field, but it can't be an original number, as the date of registration is May 1962. The year of manufacture is listed as "not available". So I don't know if it's this actual car or not - the number could have been reallocated.

That's all I have found - can anyone else get any further with it?
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2011, 12:37:39 PM »
Those look like Jowett Jupiter wheels and hubcaps on No 7.

I checked the DVLA database, and there is a car with that registration number which is currently licensed (assuming I've read it correctly and the last letter is W - it looks a bit narrow).

It's registered as "Jowett Javelin" in the "make" field, but it can't be an original number, as the date of registration is May 1962. The year of manufacture is listed as "not available". So I don't know if it's this actual car or not - the number could have been reallocated.

That's all I have found - can anyone else get any further with it?
Thanks Tom. I've checked my original source (slightly clearer) and the registration no. is 271 DYW.
It would seem to confirm the car is based on a Jowett Javelin.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2011, 01:15:06 PM »
#18 is the Faka Motorrikscha, built around 1950. Faka stood for Fahrzeugwerke Kannenberg from Salzgitter, Germany. It is not a one-off, a small series of them was built for the Middle East.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2011, 01:21:21 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz

It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2011, 02:32:18 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2011, 03:09:19 PM »
#18 is the Faka Motorrikscha, built around 1950. Faka stood for Fahrzeugwerke Kannenberg from Salzgitter, Germany. It is not a one-off, a small series of them was built for the Middle East.
Excellent. Thanks for the positive ID and another point for you.

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2011, 03:14:31 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz

It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.
Quite a different body style.
I'll award you a point in addition to Limo's original ID for that clear illustration of the differences between the two.