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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => The Brand-New 2025 Vehicle Identification Board => Topic started by: woodinsight on April 18, 2011, 06:48:12 AM
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I'm following Paul Jaray's example (Black Hole Candidates) by posting my own mysteries here 'en bloc'.
Some may have already been solved here and I apologise if any were lined up as future puzzles - I can delete any on request that fall into that category.
I have provided a few observations that I know that could help and will post an additional view if I have one.
All I request is that - don't ask me questions that I can't answer!
One point is offered for each positive identification, name of the car and who built it, even if it's a repost.
Please provide proof/source to establish true identities.
Points will be awarded as they are solved.
So let's get the ball rolling by opening it up for Rookies and Experts.
Pros will be able to join in soon.
Some easy points up for grabs?
Hints (and solutions)
01 - French, Simca-based, falsely badged as a Lotus
02 - Meyra Typ 56 (solved by Paul Jaray)
03 - Emeryson 2-seater (solved by Paul Jaray)
04 - Fiat-based coupe in the USA
05 - Triumph TR3 R3 1957 Special - Ferrari inspired c.1969 (solved by Oguerrerob)
06 - Fiat-based
07 - British (rear window missing)
08 - Albi-Devin 1961 (solved by D-Type)
09 - Photo taken at Daytona 2008
10 - British. Photo taken at Spa 2010. I should know this one but can't find it.
11 - Fiat Topolino with a body by Paul Farago 1949 (solved by Allemano)
12 - Medsker Jaguar XJ220 replica (solved by whcgt)
13 - British
14 - Reitz Pinnaduo 1958 (solved by Allemano)
15 - Alvis 14 Goldschmid Sport Edition (solved by gte4289)
16 - British. Maybe MG-based?
17 - Apparently Belgian based on a Lotus Esprit
18 - Faka Motorrikscha c.1950 (solved by Wendax)
19 - Standard Superior Coupe 1934 (solved by Limo & Wendax)
20 - Midget Fiat Topolino 1948 (solved by Quiller)
The conundrums -
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and....
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Nr. 17 is a one-off based on a Lotus Esprit, according to the owner. I've seen this car 2 times in Chimay (Belgium) in the last couple of years, but I have no more info ...
(http://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2010/0530/212446/image_01.jpg)
(http://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2010/0530/212446/image_02.jpg)
(http://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2010/0530/212446/image_03.jpg)
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Wow that's a great mixture!
I know of at least one re-post, but I'll wait to keep suspense..
I'll PM on request.
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Great puzzle!
(I think I know which repost you saw....and there's also another one...)
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Sorry, but I guess I don't understand this recent development in puzzles. What is the the impetus to group them, rather than post one-at-a-time? Is there a deadline we're trying to beat? Why not savor them, as unique puzzles in their own right?
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MJW #363-12.jpg..."sorta" XJ220 Jaguar replica...source..Priceofhistoys.com(Shannon Larratt). 1992 Dodge Intrepid windshield...rear hatch; Datsun 280z; Dakota Digital dash(guages), Fiero chassis. ONE OFF CAR.
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Thanks for the excellent photos Delorean.
Now we'll wait to see if anyone can come up with a name......
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MJW #363-12.jpg..."sorta" XJ220 Jaguar replica...source..Priceofhistoys.com(Shannon Larratt). 1992 Dodge Intrepid windshield...rear hatch; Datsun 280z; Dakota Digital dash(guages), Fiero chassis. ONE OFF CAR.
Thanks for that.
Any idea of a name or who built it?
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No, Shannon stated that it was for sale on ebay & that the body was built before the Jaguar XJ 220 was released to the public.
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Sorry, but I guess I don't understand this recent development in puzzles. What is the the impetus to group them, rather than post one-at-a-time? Is there a deadline we're trying to beat? Why not savor them, as unique puzzles in their own right?
Otto, I did consider posting them individually but understood that if I didn't know the basic details - name, builder, year, engine, etc. - it wouldn't make a very interesting puzzle.
All my answers would have been "I don't know" and they would have ended up in the BH. Many of these probably will end up there anyway......
Really this is a 'one-off' group puzzle from me prior to posting many more individual and group puzzles where I'm able to respond to puzzlers questions in a positive way.
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Thanks for the excellent photos Delorean.
Now we'll wait to see if anyone can come up with a name......
I don't think it even has an official name; according to the owner it's still officially a Lotus Esprit on paper. I think it's something he made himself; maybe someone can shed a light on this, I would like to know myself!
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the body was built before the Jaguar XJ 220 was released to the public.
Yeah - and we were all born yesterday...
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I think #5 is a Ferrari...
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reply to carnut's comment...regarding the one off XJ 220. I was just quoting what the source said.
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reply to carnut's comment...regarding the one off XJ 220. I was just quoting what the source said.
My comment was of course aimed at Shannon for thinking that anyone might believe his claim that Jaguar nicked his design for their XJ220!
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I think #5 is a Ferrari...
It does look like a prancing horse on the grille..
But the car looks more Bosley-ish to me?
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I think #5 is a Ferrari...
I understand that this is a Triumph TR3-based one-off that has been restored and "hot-rodded" by the current owner.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
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I think #5 is a Ferrari...
It's still in the Experts Monsieur! ;)
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No 10 is not the Stovebolt Special but it is very similar. Could it be an Alta or an HWM?
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I think #15 is another Belgian bodied Alvis?
#16 looks a lot like your recent Tojiero puzzle with a different nose grafted on... :)
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
Well done Limo - first point goes to you.
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No 10 is not the Stovebolt Special but it is very similar. Could it be an Alta or an HWM?
As you say - not the Stovebolt Special but Alta, HWM and perhaps Cooper may all be possibilities
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I think #15 is another Belgian bodied Alvis?
#16 looks a lot like your recent Tojiero puzzle with a different nose grafted on... :)
#15 I also thought it may be an Alvis bodied by F.J. Bidee but I haven't seen another photo to definitely say it is that.
#16 does look quite similar to the Tojeiro I posted recently but if you compare the waistlines of both cars you will notice they are quite different. I think the one here may be MG-based but I'm still no further forward with the identification.
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It looks different from the other Bidee cars I've seen but they do seem to differ in details. I would assume it was either that or by Di Mola (SP?) as they also used that grille shape. I'm sure I've actually seen that picture before somewhere but I have no proof either way.
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It looks different from the other Bidee cars I've seen but they do seem to differ in details. I would assume it was either that or by Di Mola (SP?) as they also used that grille shape. I'm sure I've actually seen that picture before somewhere but I have no proof either way.
I didn't think of Di Mola.
If the nationality of the registration number could be established it could help.
Unfortunately the image is not very clear even after I sharpened it up somewhat.
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I wonder if the Pros know any of these?
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As I said before there's at least one repost under these.
It is #14:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10206.0
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#11
"Paul Farago had his own special bodies made up on Fiat 1100 chassis. Here he pauses to look at a Fiat Topolino Giardiniera at Watkins Glen in 1949."
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As I said before there's at least one repost under these.
It is #14:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10206.0
Very good!
You still gain a point even if it's a repost.
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#11 "Paul Farago had his own special bodies made up on Fiat 1100 chassis. Here he pauses to look at a Fiat Topolino Giardiniera at Watkins Glen in 1949."
Excellent!
It's obviously smaller than it looks in my photo which was why I thought it was based on a US chassis.
Another point for you.
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#1- It is badged 'Lotus' but it's not. I'll post the article I have
#2- Meyra Typ 56.
#3- Emeryson 2-seater 1954
#4- It's an american fiberglass car...I have more pics of it
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No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
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#6 I have this same picture as a Fiat Merco. I'll search for more info.
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#1- It is badged 'Lotus' but it's not. I'll post the article I have
#2- Meyra Typ 56.
#3- Emeryson 2-seater 1954
#4- It's an american fiberglass car...I have more pics of it
#1 - I also have an article on this car (in French) which I'll post after you post yours!
#2 - Thought it must have been easy to identify but my source had no caption.
#3 - Thank you I had no idea what it was.
#4 - Yes I've seen those pics also but identification remains elusive.
So two points for you for the Meyra and the Emeryson.
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Here's the article :
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No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan
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#6 I have this same picture as a Fiat Merco. I'll search for more info.
Thanks, it would be great to have a positive ID
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Here's the article :
Thanks PJ, that's the same article I have.
I'm not sure there was any response to the article at the time but I don't think so otherwise I would have noted it.
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Here's a few more views of these conundrums -
Nos. 01, 05, 07, 08 & 09
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No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan
I found the photo and what I wrote above is complete rubbish as I was remembering something else but I don't know what.
Anyway, I should have remembered that the Rapier, like most British crossflow engines, has nearside exhaust pipes
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No. 13 reminds me of the Lagonda Rapier special raced by Beatrice and George Naylor in the 1940s/50s but I can't for the moment find a photo of that car which I know I have somewhere. She was more famous under her maiden name as Tilly Shilling whose work on carburetion allowed a RR Merlin engine to operate in negative-g transients.
Looking forward to seeing the photo Allan
I found the photo and what I wrote above is complete rubbish as I was remembering something else but I don't know what.
Anyway, I should have remembered that the Rapier, like most British crossflow engines, has nearside exhaust pipes
Thanks for trying. If anyone can solve this one it is you......
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Those look like Jowett Jupiter wheels and hubcaps on No 7.
I checked the DVLA database, and there is a car with that registration number which is currently licensed (assuming I've read it correctly and the last letter is W - it looks a bit narrow).
It's registered as "Jowett Javelin" in the "make" field, but it can't be an original number, as the date of registration is May 1962. The year of manufacture is listed as "not available". So I don't know if it's this actual car or not - the number could have been reallocated.
That's all I have found - can anyone else get any further with it?
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Those look like Jowett Jupiter wheels and hubcaps on No 7.
I checked the DVLA database, and there is a car with that registration number which is currently licensed (assuming I've read it correctly and the last letter is W - it looks a bit narrow).
It's registered as "Jowett Javelin" in the "make" field, but it can't be an original number, as the date of registration is May 1962. The year of manufacture is listed as "not available". So I don't know if it's this actual car or not - the number could have been reallocated.
That's all I have found - can anyone else get any further with it?
Thanks Tom. I've checked my original source (slightly clearer) and the registration no. is 271 DYW.
It would seem to confirm the car is based on a Jowett Javelin.
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#18 is the Faka Motorrikscha, built around 1950. Faka stood for Fahrzeugwerke Kannenberg from Salzgitter, Germany. It is not a one-off, a small series of them was built for the Middle East.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
Well done Limo - first point goes to you.
This car was my NEH 1076 puzzle waiting to be posted!
And like an idiot I didn't pick up on it...!
Well done Limo.
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#18 is the Faka Motorrikscha, built around 1950. Faka stood for Fahrzeugwerke Kannenberg from Salzgitter, Germany. It is not a one-off, a small series of them was built for the Middle East.
Excellent. Thanks for the positive ID and another point for you.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.
Quite a different body style.
I'll award you a point in addition to Limo's original ID for that clear illustration of the differences between the two.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
Well done Limo - first point goes to you.
This car was my NEH 1076 puzzle waiting to be posted!
And like an idiot I didn't pick up on it...!
Well done Limo.
There was always a risk that one of these was lined up as a future puzzle.
Sorry about that Carnut.
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no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
It is the 1934 model with a more streamlined body than the 1933 one.
Quite a different body style.
I'll award you a point in addition to Limo's original ID for that clear illustration of the differences between the two.
Thank you.
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Another picture of #18, the Faka Motorrikscha:
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20 dates from Italy 1948 and is based on the Fiat Topolino. One source refers to it as 'Midget'.
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20 dates from Italy 1948 and is based on the Fiat Topolino. One source refers to it as 'Midget'.
Thanks for that Quiller.
I'll call it solved and award you the point.
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6. I've found this same picture with two differents tags: one as a Fiat Merco and the other as Umbau Mercedes Stern. That's what I've found so far keep digging.
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6. I've found this same picture with two differents tags: one as a Fiat Merco and the other as Umbau Mercedes Stern. That's what I've found so far keep digging.
It all refers to it being a Fiat disguised as a Mercedes-Benz ("Merco") by the way of fitting a Mercedes star (Stern = star, Umbau = modification).
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MJW #363-05 Ferrari-Triumph
1957 Triumph TR3 Special: A genuine, authentic piece of American Vintage Motor Sports History. This 1957 Triumph TR3 was sold as a new car in Portland, Oregon USA and has never left. It still wears it's original 1957 number plates yet all that remains of the original TR3 is the chassis plate, frame, front suspension, windshield wiper motor, tail lights and fuel cap. More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton. The doors, floors, firewall and bulkheads are all hand formed aluminum, the tilting one piece front end is glassfiber over tubular frame. As originally constructed the car retained it's TR3 engine and drivetrain and wire wheels as per the old photos showing the car in 'as discovered' condition about 15 years ago.
The points highlighted on the eBay listing are its body which has been described as coach built and also stresses the point that it is a combination of hand-worked aluminum and glass fiber. The other highlights of the car as per the listing include an Edelbrock manifold and carburetor, TH350 transmission and a Ford 9” limited slip differential. There’s also an integral roll bar, four-link rear suspension and wide 275/50R15 rubber. The seller on eBay believes that the wiring of this car is of exceptional quality.
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MJW #363-05 Ferrari-Triumph
1957 Triumph TR3 Special: A genuine, authentic piece of American Vintage Motor Sports History. This 1957 Triumph TR3 was sold as a new car in Portland, Oregon USA and has never left. It still wears it's original 1957 number plates yet all that remains of the original TR3 is the chassis plate, frame, front suspension, windshield wiper motor, tail lights and fuel cap. More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton. The doors, floors, firewall and bulkheads are all hand formed aluminum, the tilting one piece front end is glassfiber over tubular frame. As originally constructed the car retained it's TR3 engine and drivetrain and wire wheels as per the old photos showing the car in 'as discovered' condition about 15 years ago.
The points highlighted on the eBay listing are its body which has been described as coach built and also stresses the point that it is a combination of hand-worked aluminum and glass fiber. The other highlights of the car as per the listing include an Edelbrock manifold and carburetor, TH350 transmission and a Ford 9” limited slip differential. There’s also an integral roll bar, four-link rear suspension and wide 275/50R15 rubber. The seller on eBay believes that the wiring of this car is of exceptional quality.
Thanks for that additional information Oguerrerob.
Sadly it doesn't mention the builder, possible name or year of conversion.
I'll leave it as unsolved for the moment until a more positive identification is established.
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The year of the conversion probably 1998 (Watch out the photo dates)
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Apparently 1998-99
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According to this car album this guy called it TR3 1957 Special (TR3 R3)
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Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.
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1] Two more photos of the Farago Fiat 1100
2] I can confirm this car is built on a 1950 Jowett Javelin chassis and carries a 1962 London registration. The body is not any proprietary item I've ever seen before. As far as I know even the recent owners of this car have not been able to find out who built it!
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Thanks a million for these extra photos barrett.
Images are so important for pinpointing eventual identification.
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The already identified #2, the Meyra Motorwagen 56, is by the way exactly the one pictured as #22 in my threewheeler group puzzle: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16004.50
I saw it today at the Winsen/Luhe veteran car meet with the "Three wheels on my wagon" picture #22 attached to it as a "before restoration" picture.
The car in the background to the left of #2 is an Albany I saw today too. Sometimes, the world is a village. ;)
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Thanks for that Wendax.
It never ceases to amaze me how pieces of the puzzles come together here.
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Last sunday in Winsen/luhe with the pre-restoration photo at the windshield
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I've found this: TWRR LM220C
"Built by Tom Walkinshaw this version of the XJ220 Jaguar super car was raced in the GT endurance championship and at the Le Mans 24hrs 1993, were it finished 15th and first in GT class, later to be disqualified by the ACO on a technical specification issue.
TWRR are in the development stages of recreating this car from scaled drawings and CAD software to provide the enthusiast with a replication of the original cars. Supplied in part built and complete Built-to-Order format the TWRR LM220XJC will be a stunning replication offering usability and drive-ability on the road, despite being a race car replica. There are few comforts planned for the interior, except air con, but the real thrill of owing one of these cars will be the sound of the Jaguar V12 or supercharged V8 motor purring less than 12 inches behind you as you accelerate.
The body is high strength composite with a strong tubular space frame chassis, running gear comes from Jaguar as does the braking system but you will have the option to change the discs and calipers to your preferred manufacturer. Various engines and states of tune are available to you along with colour schemes and wheel design.
For something stunning and very rare, why not choose the TWRR LM220C ?
During the current development process and discussions with interested parties as to what the key features were that they would like to see in this new kit, one main question has been asked; “Does it have to be so big, I don’t think I will get it in my garage”. Taking this onboard, the final version of the car will follow Tom Walkinshaw’s development decision from Prototype to production and reduce the actual size. We intend to scale down to achieve a max width of 6’ 6” which might still offer a squeeze to some garage entrances and gateways but it is believed will meet the majority, therefore enabling TWRR to offer Kit, Part Built and Built-to-Order to a wider market with a product that not only financially but size-wise, will allow more enthusiasts aspire to this fantastic recreation"
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Interesting find Oguerrerob but I don't think it's the mystery XJ220.
If you compare the overblown rear wings with the TWR or original version I think you will agree that it is an amateur attempt to copy the XJ220.
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Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.
I understood the car now sports a Chevy 350 cu in V8...
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Thanks for the photos and extra info.
I'm going to call this one solved and award you the point Oguerrerob even though we don't know the name of the person who built it.
I don't think anyone will disagree that your photos and information deserve a point.
I understood the car now sports a Chevy 360 cu in V8...
I can well believe that!
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#7: Jowett Special ?
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#7: Jowett Special ?
I think we have now established (see replies 43/44) that it is a Jowett Javelin based special but I need to know who built it, etc. for a point.
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I looked at #16 maybe a hundred times and everytime I get the feeling there could be a Aston Martin connection. I think I've seen this pic somewhere else before (not that source written on the pic) Could it be maybe related to the AM Atom?
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I looked at #16 maybe a hundred times and everytime I get the feeling there could be a Aston Martin connection. I think I've seen this pic somewhere else before (not that source written on the pic) Could it be maybe related to the AM Atom?
I know exactly what you mean; I've done the same and it really does look awfully familiar but I just can't put my finger on it..
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I looked at #16 maybe a hundred times and everytime I get the feeling there could be a Aston Martin connection. I think I've seen this pic somewhere else before (not that source written on the pic) Could it be maybe related to the AM Atom?
Well I can see why you say that there could be a connection.
I have a large Aston Martin library, including most books, owner's club magazines, news sheets, etc. but nowhere have I come across any reference to this car.
However I wouldn't rule it out.
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MJW #363-12jpg......is by Dr. Staten "C" Medsker Jr. of Ooltewah, TN. 1985 Fiero doner vehicle. Built by his father Staten "C" Medsker Sr.
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MJW #363-12jpg......is by Dr. Staten "C" Medsker Jr. of Ooltewah, TN. 1985 Fiero doner vehicle. Built by his father Staten "C" Medsker Sr.
Well found!
Another one solved and another point for you.
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Does anybody have more specific info about the Midget Fiat Topolino 1948?
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Thanks for the larger photo Grob, I hope it can be solved soon......
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I´d really like to know more about it, too!
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The utility version of #18: the Faka Troll Lastenroller
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Does anybody have more specific info about the Midget Fiat Topolino 1948?
I've found an Ukrainian page that claim this as a ZAZ
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Forget it...
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I think #10 may be a Jaguar powered Kougar or Cougar,
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I think #10 may be a Jaguar powered Kougar or Cougar,
Yes, I can see some similarities - perhaps someone has used a Kougar to create a more vintage looking car?
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Is no 8 the Kieft-de Soto?
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Is no 8 the Kieft-de Soto?
I don't think so Duncan if you compare the photos of the mystery No.8 and the Kieft DeSoto below -
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In actual fact I've just solved the identity of the mystery car No. 8 myself......
I'm going to post it as a separate puzzle this week and then add the solution here.
So there is still a point to be gained if you can guess what it is after I repost it. ;)
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Well, it's the same colour as the Kieft! ;D
Is it perhaps a Devin?
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Well, it's the same colour as the Kieft! ;D
Is it perhaps a Devin?
Yes - the body is by Devin.
I'll lock it for you to come up with the name - xxxx-Devin (xs equal number of missing letters)
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Absolutely no idea: Ford-Devin
Please unlock for others to try
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Absolutely no idea: Ford-Devin
Please unlock for others to try
Thanks for your contribution D-Type but it's not a Ford-Devin.
Open for all again.
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A shot in the dark: Lola-Devin?
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A shot in the dark: Lola-Devin?
Not a Lola-Devin.
The first word is the surname of the person who built it (not a company)
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Albi raced a Devin so is it Albi-Devin?
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Albi raced a Devin so is it Albi-Devin?
Well done - that's the car!
Built by John Albi of Arcadia CA 1960-1961 with a Chevrolet engine and Devin body.
Here's a picture of the original car -
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I wanted to point out that the description of #5 (TR3-turned-Ferrari) says:
"More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton."
So it wasn't done in 1999, more like 1969 or at least late 60s. The pics from late 90s are from the time the car was restored after having been discovered as a barn-find.
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I wanted to point out that the description of #5 (TR3-turned-Ferrari) says:
"More than 40 years ago the car was rebuilt with an all new "one-off" coachbuilt body constructed in the finest 'Superleggera" tradition of fitted panels over a handformed tubular framework skeleton."
So it wasn't done in 1999, more like 1969 or at least late 60s. The pics from late 90s are from the time the car was restored after having been discovered as a barn-find.
Thanks ImpishGrin, I'll alter it in the Solved replies post.
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is the number 7 car a british one-off?
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A FAKA Motorrikscha (#18) has survived:
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#13 looks like a Brooklands silencer. Is it an MG?
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#1- It is badged 'Lotus' but it's not...
new photo -
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#20 is a Siata!
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https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/neh-5241/
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https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-46/neh-5241/
Indeed!
Did quiller get a point for identifying it as a "Midget Fiat Topolino"?!
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4: Ashley
already solved? So many pages to browse...
Rgds
Norbert
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Here's a list of some of the answers or clues!
I'm following Paul Jaray's example (Black Hole Candidates) by posting my own mysteries here 'en bloc'.
Some may have already been solved here and I apologise if any were lined up as future puzzles - I can delete any on request that fall into that category.
I have provided a few observations that I know that could help and will post an additional view if I have one.
All I request is that - don't ask me questions that I can't answer!
One point is offered for each positive identification, name of the car and who built it, even if it's a repost.
Please provide proof/source to establish true identities.
Points will be awarded as they are solved.
So let's get the ball rolling by opening it up for Rookies and Experts.
Pros will be able to join in soon.
Some easy points up for grabs?
Hints (and solutions)
01 - French, Simca-based, falsely badged as a Lotus
02 - Meyra Typ 56 (solved by Paul Jaray)
03 - Emeryson 2-seater (solved by Paul Jaray)
04 - Fiat-based coupe in the USA
05 - Triumph TR3 R3 1957 Special - Ferrari inspired c.1969 (solved by Oguerrerob)
06 - Fiat-based
07 - British (rear window missing)
08 - Albi-Devin 1961 (solved by D-Type)
09 - Photo taken at Daytona 2008
10 - British. Photo taken at Spa 2010. I should know this one but can't find it.
11 - Fiat Topolino with a body by Paul Farago 1949 (solved by Allemano)
12 - Medsker Jaguar XJ220 replica (solved by whcgt)
13 - British
14 - Reitz Pinnaduo 1958 (solved by Allemano)
15 - Photo taken in 1947. Possibly an Alvis with a Bidee body. Apologies for the poor image.
16 - British. Maybe MG-based?
17 - Apparently Belgian based on a Lotus Esprit
18 - Faka Motorrikscha c.1950 (solved by Wendax)
19 - Standard Superior Coupe 1934 (solved by Limo & Wendax)
20 - Midget Fiat Topolino 1948 (solved by Quiller)
The conundrums -
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No 10 looks like an early Kougar modified by Lynx more in the style of HWM
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A picture of this one has just surfaced online, showing it in much better condition, but still unidentified...
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In case you want to see it at once: ;)
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A picture of this one has just surfaced online, showing it in much better condition, but still unidentified...
Same (trade) numberplate which was a Guildford (Surrey) issue so we may be looking at before/after restoration pictures. That adds credibility to the idea someone had that the "new" picture was taken at Goodwood.
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The shape of the car badge (if not the contents) is clearly seen. Does anybody recognise it?
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::)
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SACO, is your car somehow connected to the cars puzzled here?
Otherwise please post it either as a separate puzzle or here: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/news-information-and-feedback/information-requests-what-is-this-car-thread/
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Ok ! :)
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Regarding #15:
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That's proof enough for me. Woodinsight hasn't been posting for over 9 years now, athough he logged in this year though. I'll award you the point anyway for solving this old conundrum. :applause:
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That's proof enough for me. Woodinsight hasn't been posting for over 9 years now, athough he logged in this year though. I'll award you the point anyway for solving this old conundrum. :applause:
Thanks!
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Proto Lotus only 1 made 1977 Lotus Esprit chassis Lotus engine of 2000 cm3 in aluminum Power: 170 hp
Weight: 800 kg
Gearbox Maserati 5-speed
body entirely handmade in polyester and polycarbonate. 2018 Retrofolies de Spa (Belgium)
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10 Bentley logo
Driven by Fernando Alonso of Alpine F1 Team at FIA 2022 Formula 1 Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
and
Pierre Gasly of AlphaTauri Team at FIA 2021 Formula 1 Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
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Funnily the license plate 47CUW belongs to a Berkeley SE 328!
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Indeed the logo seems to be Berkeley's
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Funnily the license plate 47CUW belongs to a Berkeley SE 328!
But it is 2500cc not the 328cc of the model name!
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Keep appearing in time, 2012 1nd 2015 always in Spa-Francorchamps
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A real conundrum! ;D
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Keep appearing in time, 2012 1nd 2015 always in Spa-Francorchamps
More recently (2016 and 2018) with Belgium registration 'OBV 839' over the original UK plates, front and rear:
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According to owner Baron Étienne van Eyll of Stavelot, Belgium, #10 is a 1959 HWM Berkeley, of which he states only three were built.
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17 Also appears sometimes at Spa-Francorchamps
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Moved from Masters to newly-created Vehicle Identification forum.