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MJW #363 - Conundrums
« on: April 18, 2011, 06:48:12 AM »
I'm following Paul Jaray's example (Black Hole Candidates) by posting my own mysteries here 'en bloc'.
Some may have already been solved here and I apologise if any were lined up as future puzzles - I can delete any on request that fall into that category.

I have provided a few observations that I know that could help and will post an additional view if I have one. 
All I request is that - don't ask me questions that I can't answer!

One point is offered for each positive identification, name of the car and who built it, even if it's a repost.
Please provide proof/source to establish true identities.
Points will be awarded as they are solved.

So let's get the ball rolling by opening it up for Rookies and Experts.
Pros will be able to join in soon.

Some easy points up for grabs?

Hints (and solutions)

01 - French, Simca-based, falsely badged as a Lotus
02 - Meyra Typ 56 (solved by Paul Jaray)
03 - Emeryson 2-seater (solved by Paul Jaray)
04 - Fiat-based coupe in the USA
05 - Triumph TR3 R3 1957 Special - Ferrari inspired c.1969 (solved by Oguerrerob)
06 - Fiat-based
07 - British (rear window missing)
08 - Albi-Devin 1961 (solved by D-Type)
09 - Photo taken at Daytona 2008
10 - British. Photo taken at Spa 2010. I should know this one but can't find it.
11 - Fiat Topolino with a body by Paul Farago 1949 (solved by Allemano)
12 - Medsker Jaguar XJ220 replica (solved by whcgt)
13 - British
14 - Reitz Pinnaduo 1958 (solved by Allemano)
15 - Alvis 14 Goldschmid Sport Edition (solved by gte4289)
16 - British. Maybe MG-based?
17 - Apparently Belgian based on a Lotus Esprit
18 - Faka Motorrikscha c.1950 (solved by Wendax)
19 - Standard Superior Coupe 1934 (solved by Limo & Wendax)
20 - Midget Fiat Topolino 1948 (solved by Quiller)

The conundrums -
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 06:51:12 AM »
and....

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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 06:56:51 AM »
Nr. 17 is a one-off based on a Lotus Esprit, according to the owner. I've seen this car 2 times in Chimay (Belgium) in the last couple of years, but I have no more info ...



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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 07:00:42 AM »
Wow that's a great mixture!
I know of at least one re-post, but I'll wait to keep suspense..

I'll PM on request.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 07:24:19 AM »
Great puzzle!
(I think I know which repost you saw....and there's also another one...)
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 08:14:04 AM »
Sorry, but I guess I don't understand this recent development in puzzles. What is the the impetus to group them, rather than post one-at-a-time? Is there a deadline we're trying to beat? Why not savor them, as unique puzzles in their own right?
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 08:18:34 AM »
MJW #363-12.jpg..."sorta" XJ220 Jaguar replica...source..Priceofhistoys.com(Shannon Larratt). 1992 Dodge Intrepid windshield...rear hatch; Datsun 280z; Dakota Digital dash(guages), Fiero chassis. ONE OFF CAR.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 09:12:40 AM »
Thanks for the excellent photos Delorean.
Now we'll wait to see if anyone can come up with a name......
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 09:17:19 AM »
Quote from: whcgt on April 18, 2011, 08:18:34 AM
MJW #363-12.jpg..."sorta" XJ220 Jaguar replica...source..Priceofhistoys.com(Shannon Larratt). 1992 Dodge Intrepid windshield...rear hatch; Datsun 280z; Dakota Digital dash(guages), Fiero chassis. ONE OFF CAR.
Thanks for that.
Any idea of a name or who built it?
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 09:19:48 AM »
No, Shannon stated that it was for sale on ebay & that the body was built before the Jaguar XJ 220 was released to the public.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:09 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on April 18, 2011, 08:14:04 AM
Sorry, but I guess I don't understand this recent development in puzzles. What is the the impetus to group them, rather than post one-at-a-time? Is there a deadline we're trying to beat? Why not savor them, as unique puzzles in their own right?
Otto, I did consider posting them individually but understood that if I didn't know the basic details  - name, builder, year, engine, etc. - it wouldn't make a very interesting puzzle.
All my answers would have been "I don't know" and they would have ended up in the BH. Many of these probably will end up there anyway......

Really this is a 'one-off' group puzzle from me prior to posting many more individual and group puzzles where I'm able to respond to puzzlers questions in a positive way.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 09:33:21 AM »
Quote from: woodinsight on April 18, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
Thanks for the excellent photos Delorean.
Now we'll wait to see if anyone can come up with a name......

I don't think it even has an official name; according to the owner it's still officially a Lotus Esprit on paper. I think it's something he made himself; maybe someone can shed a light on this, I would like to know myself!
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 10:31:59 AM »
Quote from: whcgt on April 18, 2011, 09:19:48 AM
the body was built before the Jaguar XJ 220 was released to the public.

Yeah - and we were all born yesterday...
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 11:14:13 AM »
I think #5 is a Ferrari...
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 11:46:21 AM »
reply to carnut's comment...regarding the one off XJ 220. I was just quoting what the source said.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 11:57:59 AM »
Quote from: whcgt on April 18, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
reply to carnut's comment...regarding the one off XJ 220. I was just quoting what the source said.

My comment was of course aimed at Shannon for thinking that anyone might believe his claim that Jaguar nicked his design for their XJ220!
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 12:01:08 PM »
Quote from: Arunas on April 18, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
I think #5 is a Ferrari...

It does look like a prancing horse on the grille..
But the car looks more Bosley-ish to me?
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 01:17:29 PM »
Quote from: Arunas on April 18, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
I think #5 is a Ferrari...
I understand that this is a Triumph TR3-based one-off that has been restored and "hot-rodded" by the current owner.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2011, 02:49:33 PM »
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2011, 03:32:02 PM »
Quote from: Arunas on April 18, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
I think #5 is a Ferrari...
It's still in the Experts Monsieur! ;)
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 04:10:01 PM »
No 10 is not the Stovebolt Special but it is very  similar.  Could it be an Alta or an HWM?
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 04:10:52 PM »
I think #15 is another Belgian bodied Alvis?

#16 looks a lot like your recent Tojiero puzzle with a different nose grafted on... :)
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2011, 11:32:42 AM »
Quote from: Limo on April 18, 2011, 02:49:33 PM
no.19 is a Standard Superior by Josef Ganz
That's the car! Standard Superior Coupe designed by Josef Ganz and built by Standard Fahrzeugfabrik GmbH, Ludwigsburg between 1933-1935.
Well done Limo - first point goes to you.
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2011, 11:36:16 AM »
Quote from: D-type on April 18, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
No 10 is not the Stovebolt Special but it is very  similar.  Could it be an Alta or an HWM?
As you say - not the Stovebolt Special but Alta, HWM and perhaps Cooper may all be possibilities
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Re: MJW #363 - Conundrums
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2011, 11:42:10 AM »
Quote from: barrett on April 18, 2011, 04:10:52 PM
I think #15 is another Belgian bodied Alvis?

#16 looks a lot like your recent Tojiero puzzle with a different nose grafted on... :)
#15 I also thought it may be an Alvis bodied by F.J. Bidee but I haven't seen another photo to definitely say it is that.

#16 does look quite similar to the Tojeiro I posted recently but if you compare the waistlines of both cars you will notice they are quite different. I think the one here may be MG-based but I'm still no further forward with the identification.
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