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SOLVED: FW #44 Mean Alfa Romeo, Bernard Carlier, 1970
« on: December 05, 2020, 04:50:37 PM »
Unusual racer...

Please identify this race car: What was it called? Who built it? Who drove it? When? Where? Engine? etc....
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Re: FW #44
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2021, 10:28:37 AM »
Experts?

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 04:29:59 PM »
Brabham BT 19

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 04:34:17 PM »
Not a Brabham, but partly related

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2021, 01:26:13 PM »
Tojeiro ?

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2021, 02:57:39 PM »
Australian built ?
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Re: FW #44
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2021, 07:33:48 PM »
Wether Tojeiro, nor Australian built

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2021, 12:32:26 PM »
Repco engine ?

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2021, 03:57:14 PM »
No

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2021, 09:52:56 AM »
More in hope than anticipation....
Felday ?

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2021, 10:12:38 AM »
Sorry, no

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2021, 05:40:10 PM »
Pros?

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2021, 04:32:25 AM »
That roll bar looks very Down Under. From New Zealand ?
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Re: FW #44
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2021, 08:21:13 AM »
Not New Zealand

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Re: FW #44
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2021, 03:17:34 PM »
I can't work out the Brabham connection. Is this an early version of the Brahma ?

PS Hold that - is this Bernard Carlier's Mean Brabham which was Alfa Romeo powered?
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Re: FW #44
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2021, 04:56:23 PM »
Bravo 'nicanary'! Please correct the name, tell me the year and the peculiarity of the car's Alfa engine, then the point will be yours

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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2021, 05:12:13 PM »
The Alfa engine was a turbo,  I think the year was 1969, and the only name i can find for the car is Proto Carlier.
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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2021, 05:26:39 PM »
It was not a turbo-engine, add a small bit to 1969, neither 'Proto' nor 'Carlier' are part of the car's name, but you mentioned the right words in a previous answer.
Still locked

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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2021, 05:36:30 AM »
It was not a turbo-engine, add a small bit to 1969, neither 'Proto' nor 'Carlier' are part of the car's name, but you mentioned the right words in a previous answer.
Still locked

It was a supercharged engine, not turbo, I guess you think 1970, although a well-known French website claims he won the 1969 cote de Mont Saint-Aubert. I still cannot find the correct name - are you looking for Brabham-Mean ?
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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2021, 06:20:59 AM »
Supercharged Alfa-engine is correct.
Yes, he won 1969 the hillclimb on Mont Saint-Aubert. But not with the puzzle car (see picture attached)
1970 is correct
Brabham is not part of the name. Mean is correct. Followed by other word(s), usually used on racing cars to denote the engine manufacturer

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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2021, 06:37:52 AM »
I did not check my answer! That Mean in 1969 was indeed a different car.

Mean-Alfa Romeo ?

(I have been trying to find answers on French sites which are so interesting that I forget why I'm there and keep finding other stuff)
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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2021, 01:50:53 PM »
Yes, mostly the car was referred as the 'Mean Alfa Romeo' in race-programs. Correct again.
I asked for the car's builder within this puzzle. Do you think, you may find his name too?

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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2021, 02:28:48 PM »
Jacques d'Heur ?
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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2021, 02:40:39 PM »
Perfect! Congratulation! Here is you 500th point! :applause:

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Re: LOCKED: FW #44
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2021, 04:49:10 PM »
Perfect! Congratulation! Here is you 500th point! :applause:

Thank you. That was hard work - I haven't read French language for 51 years and I'm so bad at IT that I don't bother with Google translate.

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